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WaPo: Obama voters who didn't vote for Hillary don't regret it at all.

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Sojy 1 day ago#1
“What we clearly see in the focus groups is they don’t regret what they did.”

“They” are millennials of color who either didn’t vote or voted third party. And for Cornell Belcher, the president of Brilliant Corners Research & Strategies, who was the pollster for the Democratic National Committee under then-Chairman Howard Dean and for both of Barack Obama’s campaigns for the White House, this makes them the new swing voters the Democratic Party should be trying to win over.

Belcher came to this conclusion after conducting focus groups, commissioned by the Civic Engagement Fund, in Milwaukee and Fort Lauderdale, Fla., in May. The goal was to find out why young voters who previously voted for Obama either sat out the 2016 election or voted for one of the third-party candidates. The results were sobering.

“They are so outraged at the broken politics that they see on both sides,” Belcher told me in the latest episode of “Cape Up,” “that they really think that them protesting their vote … makes both parties have to pay attention.”

And there is pointed ire at the Democratic Party. One participant was particularly blunt. “You’re damn right, I don’t have any loyalty to Democrats,” a person of color said in a focus group in Fort Lauderdale. 

“If Republicans want to get real about s— that’s happening in my community I would vote for every one of them. Then maybe Democrats would take us serious too.”

The Democratic Party had better be paying attention now. When you look at the third-party vote margins in Florida, Michigan, Pennsylvania and Wisconsin, the missed opportunity jumps off the page.

“We spend a lot of time talking about blue-collar white voters and Reagan Democrats. Reagan Democrats are dead,” said Belcher, who believes effort should be placed on winning back millennials of color and young progressive whites. “Bringing that coalition back together would seem to make a lot more sense to me than try to, in fact, bring in voters who have not been voting Democrat for quite some time.”

https://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/post-partisan/wp/2017/07/18/these-obama-voters-snubbed-hillary-clinton-and-they-dont-regret-what-they-did/

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Spooking 1 day ago#2
Even six months in I still see Hillary lower than Trump when it comes to likeability.
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Gryffindor1 1 day ago#3
You'd have to be a sociopath to not regret it.
Gryffindor1 1 day ago#4
Spooking posted...
Even six months in I still see Hillary lower than Trump when it comes to likeability.


Governance isn't about likeability, its about policy.
What a shocking surprise, you mean people who voted for "hope and change" didn't vote for the definition of status quo and corporate shilling in Hillary? My god what madness!
ozzyman314 1 day ago#6
“They are so outraged at the broken politics that they see on both sides,” Belcher told me in the latest episode of “Cape Up,” “that they really think that them protesting their vote … makes both parties have to pay attention.”

Sounds about right. 

But of course Democrats in their usually vain & arrogant manner are still going to put their fingers in their ears and pretend it's all the fault of the "bernie or bust" crowd, because Hillary was "entitled" to their vote. Rather than acknowledge any flaw in their candidate or the party itself.
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BilalPowell 1 day ago#7
People who voted for a guy because he was black don't regret not voting for a non-black candidate. Makes sense.
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Sojy 1 day ago#8
BilalPowell posted...
People who voted for a guy because he was black don't regret not voting for a non-black candidate. Makes sense.

People voted for Obama because he campaigned on making things better rather than keeping them the same.
SpawnShadow 1 day ago#9
Then they can enjoy getting completely f***ed by Republicans.
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Sojy posted...
BilalPowell posted...
People who voted for a guy because he was black don't regret not voting for a non-black candidate. Makes sense.

People voted for Obama because he campaigned on making things better rather than keeping them the same.


And Trump campaigned on making things worse. 

No matter how s***ty things are in the present, things staying the same is always better than them getting worse.
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Sojy posted...
BilalPowell posted...
People who voted for a guy because he was black don't regret not voting for a non-black candidate. Makes sense.

People voted for Obama because he campaigned on making things better rather than keeping them the same.

So did McCain though.
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Starks 1 day ago#13
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It is fun sometimes to draw parallels between Trump and Hillary cultists. The derangement that some people still have regarding Hillary is astounding. For the good of the party she should have stepped down from the election. It is on her, not all of the people that didn't blindly fall in line. I supported her so far as Trump was clearly worse, but I hold nothing against people that couldn't do the same.

To be honest, I might consider this all a win if after her political career toppled in to the trashcan, Trump also falls due to Russiagate. I'll at least have my poetic justice if they both get to end their careers as giant failure money-grubbing s***stains.
SamCarlson 1 day ago#15
which goes to what everyone said, kenny, you were pro-Trump
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Trash-talking Hillary has really lost its sting now that we know exactly how awful her opponent is at running the country. Say what you want about her, but we f***ed up by electing a corrupt idiot in her place.
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Hyena 20 1 day ago#17
Spooking posted...
Even six months in I still see Hillary lower than Trump when it comes to likeability.


That's because she lost the presidential election. Losing the election always knocks the candidate down several points. It also causes a lot of their voters to change their voter affiliation to Independent. It also causes the politicians of the losing party to go for one another's throats while they look for someone to blame for their loss.
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Sojy 1 day ago#18
FunWithAFryPan posted...
Trash-talking Hillary has really lost its sting now that we know exactly how awful her opponent is at running the country. Say what you want about her, but we f***ed up by electing a corrupt idiot in her place.

We always knew he was awful. That was never the point.
BilalPowell posted...
Sojy posted...
BilalPowell posted...
People who voted for a guy because he was black don't regret not voting for a non-black candidate. Makes sense.

People voted for Obama because he campaigned on making things better rather than keeping them the same.

So did McCain though.


Obama did it way better. 

Hell, Obama was probably the best campaigner since JFK.
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SamCarlson 1 day ago#21
SSJBartSimp posted...
BilalPowell posted...
Sojy posted...
BilalPowell posted...
People who voted for a guy because he was black don't regret not voting for a non-black candidate. Makes sense.

People voted for Obama because he campaigned on making things better rather than keeping them the same.

So did McCain though.


Obama did it way better. 

Hell, Obama was probably the best campaigner since JFK.

How many dem candidates following a successful dem's term limits campaign on attacking the successful dem president?
Force feeding people the truth.
Sojy posted...
FunWithAFryPan posted...
Trash-talking Hillary has really lost its sting now that we know exactly how awful her opponent is at running the country. Say what you want about her, but we f***ed up by electing a corrupt idiot in her place.

We always knew he was awful. That was never the point.

I don't think you have a point.
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oh please, you had all these so called liberals saying "At least Trump would bring change to the status quo" and "at least he isn't a hawkish warmonger who will attack Russia". There was a ton of far leftist sympathy for him. Stein was practically campaigning for Trump the entire election
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TheArcade 1 day ago#24
Go away Whaopro.
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