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I liked Obama, but the Trayvon could have been my son thing was the cringiest

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Milkman5 1 week ago#1
thing I have ever heard. 

Obama : "Trayvon could have been my son"

No he couldn't have been

Obama: "Oops, I meant Trayvon could have been me"

No he couldn't have been

Obama: "Oops, I meant to say that we are both black"



I'm sure Obama didn't write that line, but christ lmao
I honestly didn't pay much attention to the story. Just knew it involved a hoodie?
NadYobWoc 1 week ago#3
Eh, I see what he was saying.

The cringiest moment of Obama's presidency in retrospect was the "at least I'll go down as a president" jab at Trump.
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CrimsonRage 1 week ago#4
I still don't see what was so wrong with him saying that tbh
CrimsonRage posted...
I still don't see what was so wrong with him saying that tbh

Snowflakes can't handle Obama saying anything
CrimsonRage posted...
I still don't see what was so wrong with him saying that tbh
Balrog0 1 week ago#7
NadYobWoc posted...
The cringiest moment of Obama's presidency in retrospect was the "at least I'll go down as a president" jab at Trump.


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ThyCorndog 1 week ago#8
ElatedVenusaur posted...
CrimsonRage posted...
I still don't see what was so wrong with him saying that tbh
NadYobWoc 1 week ago#9
Balrog0 posted...
NadYobWoc posted...
The cringiest moment of Obama's presidency in retrospect was the "at least I'll go down as a president" jab at Trump.


if you like your doctor, you can keep him or w/e

Nah that wasn't that bad. The vast majority of people did keep their doctor, and more would have if not for Republican meddling with the ACA.
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Milkman5 1 week ago#10
NadYobWoc posted...
Eh, I see what he was saying.

The cringiest moment of Obama's presidency in retrospect was the "at least I'll go down as a president" jab at Trump.


Hindsight is 20/20

What Obama said about Trayvon was stupid in the moment


The jab at Trump had potential to either be a badass moment for Obama or a huge egg on his face. He took the risk and it didn't pay off and now he looks like a colossal cuckold and that will be quoted for generations.

But he had every reason to believe Trump would not win since every media outlet was claiming that to be the case
BLAKUboy 1 week ago#11
CrimsonRage posted...
I still don't see what was so wrong with him saying that tbh

I'd not-so-subtly imply racism, but knowing this site that would probably get modded quicker than actual racism.
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Iodine 1 week ago#13
BLAKUboy posted...
CrimsonRage posted...
I still don't see what was so wrong with him saying that tbh

I'd not-so-subtly imply racism, but knowing this site that would probably get modded quicker than actual racism.

It is such a meh whatever quote and yet people still get riled up about it.
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CableZL 1 week ago#14
Can we at least quote him accurately?

If I had a son, he’d look like Trayvon,” Obama said. “When I think about this boy, I think about my own kids.”

and

ElatedVenusaur posted...
CrimsonRage posted...
I still don't see what was so wrong with him saying that tbh
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ThyCorndog posted...
ElatedVenusaur posted...
CrimsonRage posted...
I still don't see what was so wrong with him saying that tbh
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prince_leo 1 week ago#16
Milkman5 posted...
and that will be quoted for generations.

it really won't
CableZL 1 week ago#17
prince_leo posted...
Milkman5 posted...
and that will be quoted for generations.

it really won't


Oh, it will. There are some conservatives who are still trying to prove Obama was born in Kenya, still saying he's a Muslim, still saying he isn't the real father of his daughters, referencing his "57 states" gaffe, etc.
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prince_leo 1 week ago#18
CableZL posted...
Oh, it will. There are some conservatives who are still trying to prove Obama was born in Kenya, still saying he's a Muslim, still saying he isn't the real father of his daughters, etc.

oh fair enough, I thought he meant for like textbook examples of "what not to do" or Bush 1's "read my lips" stuff
why couldn't he have been Obama's son tc?

Obama could even have adopted Trayvon
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CrimsonRage 1 week ago#20
CableZL posted...
There are some conservatives who are still trying to prove Obama was born in Kenya, still saying he's a Muslim, still saying he isn't the real father of his daughters, referencing his "57 states" gaffe, etc.


And that Michelle is a MtF transsexual, don't forget that gem.
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CableZL 1 week ago#22
ThePrinceFish posted...
Remember when Kobe Bryant got attacked for not going after Zimmerman and he said he didn't give a s*** and he shouldn't be expected to just because he's black?


Yeah, that s*** was dumb.
Annihilated 1 week ago#23
CableZL posted...
Can we at least quote him accurately?

If I had a son, he’d look like Trayvon,” Obama said. “When I think about this boy, I think about my own kids.”

and

ElatedVenusaur posted...
CrimsonRage posted...
I still don't see what was so wrong with him saying that tbh


Because that implies he thinks of his own kids as thuggish delinquents who should not be held responsible for their actions.
Taharqa_ 1 week ago#24
CrimsonRage posted...
I still don't see what was so wrong with him saying that tbh


Nothing was wrong with it. Some people have a problem with black people that are unapologetically black.
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The Admiral 1 week ago#25
If Trayvon could have been Obama's son, then Obama is a s*** father. If your teenage kid is uploading pics of himself smoking weed, brandishing handguns, and trying to look like a thug, you failed as a parent.
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Ilove4chan 1 week ago#26
KhlavicLanguage posted...
CrimsonRage posted...
I still don't see what was so wrong with him saying that tbh

Snowflakes can't handle Obama saying anything
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The Admiral 1 week ago#28
Ilove4chan posted...
The Admiral posted...
If Trayvon could have been Obama's son, then Obama is a s*** father. If your teenage kid is uploading pics of himself smoking weed, brandishing handguns, and trying to look like a thug, you failed as a parent.


Your parents should have aborted you, they failed.


Aww, look at this poor snowflake. Someone hurt his feelings.
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NadYobWoc posted...
Balrog0 posted...
NadYobWoc posted...
The cringiest moment of Obama's presidency in retrospect was the "at least I'll go down as a president" jab at Trump.


if you like your doctor, you can keep him or w/e

Nah that wasn't that bad. The vast majority of people did keep their doctor, and more would have if not for Republican meddling with the ACA.

Revisionist history.
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Lightsasori 1 week ago#30
CableZL posted...

If I had a son, he’d look like Trayvon,” Obama said. “When I think about this boy, I think about my own kids.”


Thank you, I was going to point this out.
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The Admiral posted...
If Trayvon could have been Obama's son, then Obama is a s*** father. If your teenage kid is uploading pics of himself smoking weed, brandishing handguns, and trying to look like a thug, you failed as a parent.


What's the problem with pics smoking weed? I mean it's ill advised to create pictorial evidence if you live in a state where it's not legal yet, but it's as though you implied it speaks negatively to his character, as opposed to just being something risky.
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The Admiral 1 week ago#32
Lightsasori posted...
CableZL posted...

If I had a son, he’d look like Trayvon,” Obama said. “When I think about this boy, I think about my own kids.”


Thank you, I was going to point this out.


That's not true though, since he made similar comments a few times. Here is the infamous quote:

You know, when Trayvon Martin was first shot I said that this could have been my son. Another way of saying that is Trayvon Martin could have been me 35 years ago.


https://obamawhitehouse.archives.gov/the-press-office/2013/07/19/remarks-president-trayvon-martin
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Iodine posted...
BLAKUboy posted...
CrimsonRage posted...
I still don't see what was so wrong with him saying that tbh

I'd not-so-subtly imply racism, but knowing this site that would probably get modded quicker than actual racism.

It is such a meh whatever quote and yet people still get riled up about it.

When taken by itself, it's a benign statement. When viewed through the lens of all of his statements about a black man supposedly roughed up, only to turn out to be 100% in the wrong, it is another example of how blatantly racist President Obama is.
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Ilove4chan 1 week ago#34
The Admiral posted...
Ilove4chan posted...
The Admiral posted...
If Trayvon could have been Obama's son, then Obama is a s*** father. If your teenage kid is uploading pics of himself smoking weed, brandishing handguns, and trying to look like a thug, you failed as a parent.


Your parents should have aborted you, they failed.


Aww, look at this poor snowflake. Someone hurt his feelings.


Nice, a "snowflake" insult LMAO.

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Taharqa_ 1 week ago#35
darkjedilink posted...
Iodine posted...
BLAKUboy posted...
CrimsonRage posted...
I still don't see what was so wrong with him saying that tbh

I'd not-so-subtly imply racism, but knowing this site that would probably get modded quicker than actual racism.

It is such a meh whatever quote and yet people still get riled up about it.

When taken by itself, it's a benign statement. When viewed through the lens of all of his statements about a black man supposedly roughed up, only to turn out to be 100% in the wrong, it is another example of how blatantly racist President Obama is.


Imagine actually believing this s***.
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CableZL 1 week ago#36
The Admiral posted...
Lightsasori posted...
CableZL posted...

If I had a son, he’d look like Trayvon,” Obama said. “When I think about this boy, I think about my own kids.”


Thank you, I was going to point this out.


That's not true though, since he made similar comments a few times. Here is the infamous quote:

You know, when Trayvon Martin was first shot I said that this could have been my son. Another way of saying that is Trayvon Martin could have been me 35 years ago.


https://obamawhitehouse.archives.gov/the-press-office/2013/07/19/remarks-president-trayvon-martin


Ah.

And when you look at the full quote of what he's talking about, it makes perfect sense. 

You know, when Trayvon Martin was first shot I said that this could have been my son. Another way of saying that is Trayvon Martin could have been me 35 years ago. And when you think about why, in the African American community at least, there’s a lot of pain around what happened here, I think it’s important to recognize that the African American community is looking at this issue through a set of experiences and a history that doesn’t go away.

There are very few African American men in this country who haven't had the experience of being followed when they were shopping in a department store. That includes me. There are very few African American men who haven't had the experience of walking across the street and hearing the locks click on the doors of cars. That happens to me -- at least before I was a senator. There are very few African Americans who haven't had the experience of getting on an elevator and a woman clutching her purse nervously and holding her breath until she had a chance to get off. That happens often.

And I don't want to exaggerate this, but those sets of experiences inform how the African American community interprets what happened one night in Florida. And it’s inescapable for people to bring those experiences to bear. The African American community is also knowledgeable that there is a history of racial disparities in the application of our criminal laws -- everything from the death penalty to enforcement of our drug laws. And that ends up having an impact in terms of how people interpret the case.

Now, this isn't to say that the African American community is naïve about the fact that African American young men are disproportionately involved in the criminal justice system; that they’re disproportionately both victims and perpetrators of violence. It’s not to make excuses for that fact -- although black folks do interpret the reasons for that in a historical context. They understand that some of the violence that takes place in poor black neighborhoods around the country is born out of a very violent past in this country, and that the poverty and dysfunction that we see in those communities can be traced to a very difficult history.
CableZL 1 week ago#37

And so the fact that sometimes that’s unacknowledged adds to the frustration. And the fact that a lot of African American boys are painted with a broad brush and the excuse is given, well, there are these statistics out there that show that African American boys are more violent -- using that as an excuse to then see sons treated differently causes pain.

I think the African American community is also not naïve in understanding that, statistically, somebody like Trayvon Martin was statistically more likely to be shot by a peer than he was by somebody else. So folks understand the challenges that exist for African American boys. But they get frustrated, I think, if they feel that there’s no context for it and that context is being denied. And that all contributes I think to a sense that if a white male teen was involved in the same kind of scenario, that, from top to bottom, both the outcome and the aftermath might have been different.

Now, the question for me at least, and I think for a lot of folks, is where do we take this? How do we learn some lessons from this and move in a positive direction? I think it’s understandable that there have been demonstrations and vigils and protests, and some of that stuff is just going to have to work its way through, as long as it remains nonviolent. If I see any violence, then I will remind folks that that dishonors what happened to Trayvon Martin and his family. But beyond protests or vigils, the question is, are there some concrete things that we might be able to do. 

I know that Eric Holder is reviewing what happened down there, but I think it’s important for people to have some clear expectations here. Traditionally, these are issues of state and local government, the criminal code. And law enforcement is traditionally done at the state and local levels, not at the federal levels.
CableZL 1 week ago#38
So essentially, he was talking about the reality of what us black males face going through life while referencing things he himself has experienced. He wasn't trying to excuse any ill-advised photos Trayvon took or excuse any drug dealing he was doing.
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Taharqa_ posted...
darkjedilink posted...
Iodine posted...
BLAKUboy posted...
CrimsonRage posted...
I still don't see what was so wrong with him saying that tbh

I'd not-so-subtly imply racism, but knowing this site that would probably get modded quicker than actual racism.

It is such a meh whatever quote and yet people still get riled up about it.

When taken by itself, it's a benign statement. When viewed through the lens of all of his statements about a black man supposedly roughed up, only to turn out to be 100% in the wrong, it is another example of how blatantly racist President Obama is.

Imagine actually believing this s***.

'It's clear the cops acted stupidly...' only for it to turn out his college professor friend is racist.

Supporting Martin, only for it to turn out that Martin instigated the violence.

Supporting Michael Brown, only for it to turn out that Brown was a violent sociopath who assaulted a cop.

Supports Antifa, a violent group that the FBI wanted to classify as domestic terrrists under his Presidency, only for him to block such.

Didn't condemn black people killing cops, instead blaming cops.

Yeah, not racist at all.
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Taharqa_ 1 week ago#40
darkjedilink posted...
Taharqa_ posted...
darkjedilink posted...
Iodine posted...
BLAKUboy posted...
CrimsonRage posted...
I still don't see what was so wrong with him saying that tbh

I'd not-so-subtly imply racism, but knowing this site that would probably get modded quicker than actual racism.

It is such a meh whatever quote and yet people still get riled up about it.

When taken by itself, it's a benign statement. When viewed through the lens of all of his statements about a black man supposedly roughed up, only to turn out to be 100% in the wrong, it is another example of how blatantly racist President Obama is.

Imagine actually believing this s***.

'It's clear the cops acted stupidly...' only for it to turn out his college professor friend is racist.

Supporting Martin, only for it to turn out that Martin instigated the violence.

Supporting Michael Brown, only for it to turn out that Brown was a violent sociopath who assaulted a cop.

Supports Antifa, a violent group that the FBI wanted to classify as domestic terrrists under his Presidency, only for him to block such.

Didn't condemn black people killing cops, instead blaming cops.

Yeah, not racist at all.


If Obama's a racist in your eyes then I'm sure you have no problem calling Trump a racist, the latter actually put white nationalists in the White House.
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CableZL 1 week ago#41
Taharqa_ posted...
If Obama's a racist in your eyes then I'm sure you have no problem calling Trump a racist, the latter actually put white nationalists in the White House.


And didn't allow black people to stay in his apartments in the 70s, for which he was sued twice.
Waluigi7 1 week ago#42
Milkman posted...
I liked Obama


No you didn't.
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lilORANG 1 week ago#43
NadYobWoc posted...
The cringiest moment of Obama's presidency in retrospect was the "at least I'll go down as a president" jab at Trump.

which is 100% factually correct
Deadpool_18 1 week ago#44
Cringiest moment was when he invited the attention whore clock kid to the White House.
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Sir Will 1 week ago#45
Milkman5 posted...
He took the risk and it didn't pay off and now he looks like a colossal cuckold and that will be quoted for generations.

...no.
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It was inappropriate for him to say it as he shoe-horned himself into a case that was immensely divided by race in the public eye. It was unnecessary. There is nothing wrong with pointing out where he, as a black man, has faced issues for his skin color and can relate with other black people--nothing wrong at all. But as you may feel one way about the Zimmerman case, a lot of others feel the oppisite and they aren't wrong to believe so and they aren't automatically racist for it either.

The same goes with how he sent white house officials to Mike Brown's funeral.
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Taharqa_ posted...
darkjedilink posted...
Taharqa_ posted...
darkjedilink posted...
Iodine posted...
BLAKUboy posted...
CrimsonRage posted...
I still don't see what was so wrong with him saying that tbh

I'd not-so-subtly imply racism, but knowing this site that would probably get modded quicker than actual racism.

It is such a meh whatever quote and yet people still get riled up about it.

When taken by itself, it's a benign statement. When viewed through the lens of all of his statements about a black man supposedly roughed up, only to turn out to be 100% in the wrong, it is another example of how blatantly racist President Obama is.

Imagine actually believing this s***.

'It's clear the cops acted stupidly...' only for it to turn out his college professor friend is racist.

Supporting Martin, only for it to turn out that Martin instigated the violence.

Supporting Michael Brown, only for it to turn out that Brown was a violent sociopath who assaulted a cop.

Supports Antifa, a violent group that the FBI wanted to classify as domestic terrrists under his Presidency, only for him to block such.

Didn't condemn black people killing cops, instead blaming cops.

Yeah, not racist at all.


If Obama's a racist in your eyes then I'm sure you have no problem calling Trump a racist, the latter actually put white nationalists in the White House.

Whataboutism at it's finest.

In the face of those events, how could you possibly claim he isn't?
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CableZL 1 week ago#48
darkjedilink posted...
Whataboutism at it's finest.

In the face of those events, how could you possibly claim he isn't?


He has white friends, though

In fact, one of his best friends is white.
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Taharqa_ 1 week ago#49
Any black person that is not an apologist for white supremacy like Jason Whitlock or Jesse Lee Peterson and doesn't bow and scrape is a racist to some of these folks. Unapolgetic blackness is seen as an offense.
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Sir Will 1 week ago#50
darkjedilink posted...
Supporting Martin, only for it to turn out that Martin instigated the violence.

He was being stalked by a strange armed man.
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    GOATTHlEF 1 week ago#51
    I have you tagged as white supremacist, so I doubt you liked Obama.
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    BlueBoy675 1 week ago#52
    Obama should never have taken sides in the Trayvon incident and it shouldn't have been blown up the way it was.
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    BlueBoy675 posted...
    Obama should never have taken sides in the Trayvon incident and it shouldn't have been blown up the way it was.


    Saying that he "took sides" is blowing it out of proportion. That speech was a way to acknowledge the anger of african americans while at the same time calling for calm and reason among them.
    CrimsonRage 1 week ago#54
    Maybe Obama should have said there was violence on both sides. :p
    CrimsonRage posted...
    Maybe Obama should have said there was violence on both sides. :p

    If Zimmerman had violated any law whatsoever, like Antifa did at Charlottesville by not having an assembly permit, this might have slid.
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    Sir Will posted...
    darkjedilink posted...
    Supporting Martin, only for it to turn out that Martin instigated the violence.

    He was being stalked by a strange armed man.

    Stalked so well that Martin lost him and went home, over a block away from Zimmerman.

    Following =/= stalking.
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    CrimsonRage posted...
    I still don't see what was so wrong with him saying that tbh
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    darkjedilink posted...
    CrimsonRage posted...
    Maybe Obama should have said there was violence on both sides. :p

    If Zimmerman had violated any law whatsoever, like Antifa did at Charlottesville by not having an assembly permit, this might have slid.

    They have to have a permit to assemble? I thought the constitution said that it was our right?
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    Zikten 1 week ago#60
    prince_leo posted...
    Milkman5 posted...
    and that will be quoted for generations.

    it really won't

    yes it will
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    Polycosm 1 week ago#61
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    Zikten 1 week ago#62
    GOATTHlEF posted...
    I have you tagged as white supremacist, so I doubt you liked Obama.

    people mistag all the time. your not perfect and you misjudge people. you probably have me tagged as white supremacist too. I'm sure half of CE does.
    prince_leo 1 week ago#63
    Sir Will 1 week ago#64
    Zikten posted...
    yes it will

    No.

    KStateKing17 posted...
    darkjedilink posted...
    CrimsonRage posted...
    Maybe Obama should have said there was violence on both sides. :p

    If Zimmerman had violated any law whatsoever, like Antifa did at Charlottesville by not having an assembly permit, this might have slid.

    They have to have a permit to assemble? I thought the constitution said that it was our right?

    Their assembly way fine.
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    KStateKing17 posted...
    darkjedilink posted...
    CrimsonRage posted...
    Maybe Obama should have said there was violence on both sides. :p

    If Zimmerman had violated any law whatsoever, like Antifa did at Charlottesville by not having an assembly permit, this might have slid.

    They have to have a permit to assemble? I thought the constitution said that it was our right?

    In Charlottesville, you need a permit to have a mass assembly like that. The Nazis got it, and legally fought all the way to the state Supreme Court to make sure it was allowed.

    Antifa did not have one. Ergo, it wasn't a legal protest, meaning that Antifa was literally there in violation of the law.
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    darkjedilink posted...
    KStateKing17 posted...
    darkjedilink posted...
    CrimsonRage posted...
    Maybe Obama should have said there was violence on both sides. :p

    If Zimmerman had violated any law whatsoever, like Antifa did at Charlottesville by not having an assembly permit, this might have slid.

    They have to have a permit to assemble? I thought the constitution said that it was our right?

    In Charlottesville, you need a permit to have a mass assembly like that. The Nazis got it, and legally fought all the way to the state Supreme Court to make sure it was allowed.

    Antifa did not have one. Ergo, it wasn't a legal protest, meaning that Antifa was literally there in violation of the law.


    So you think the Nazis were the victims there?
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    Chronofan8 1 week ago#67
    Haha yeah black people have to think about how they're not safe how cringe-worthy
    Sir Will 1 week ago#68
    http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/2017/aug/17/donald-trump/donald-trump-wrong-charlottesville-counter-protest/
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    TommyG663513 posted...
    So you think the Nazis were the victims there?

    In the sense that Antifa were there illegally, purely to harass people who - until they showed up - were doing nothing but exercising their right to free speech, yeah.

    Did that give any of the Nazis the right to assault Antifa members? By itself, no - unless an Antifa member punched a Nazi first (and, let's be completely fair here - we all are reasonably sure that Antifa threw the first punch), the Nazis had no right to be physically violent. They sure as s*** had no right to get in a car and run people over, and I hope that dude gets thrown in prison. However, without a permit, Antifa had no right to be there, and are therefore somewhat culpable for what happened.
    'It's okay that those gangbangers stole all my personal belongings and cash at gunpoint, cuz they're building a rec center!' - OneTimeBen
    Sir Will 1 week ago#70
    Sir Will posted...
    http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/2017/aug/17/donald-trump/donald-trump-wrong-charlottesville-counter-protest/
    River Song: Well, I was off to this gay gypsy bar mitzvah for the disabled when I thought 'Gosh, the Third Reich's a bit rubbish, I think i'll kill the Fuhrer'
    Sir Will posted...
    Sir Will posted...
    http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/2017/aug/17/donald-trump/donald-trump-wrong-charlottesville-counter-protest/

    Did you read that? Their permit was for two totally different locations than where they fought with the Nazis.

    Ergo, they literally did not have permission to be where they were.
    'It's okay that those gangbangers stole all my personal belongings and cash at gunpoint, cuz they're building a rec center!' - OneTimeBen
    sylverlolol 1 week ago#72
    CableZL posted...
    Can we at least quote him accurately?

    If I had a son, he’d look like Trayvon,” Obama said. “When I think about this boy, I think about my own kids.”

    and

    ElatedVenusaur posted...
    CrimsonRage posted...
    I still don't see what was so wrong with him saying that tbh
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    darkjedilink posted...
    TommyG663513 posted...
    So you think the Nazis were the victims there?

    In the sense that Antifa were there illegally, purely to harass people who - until they showed up - were doing nothing but exercising their right to free speech, yeah.

    Did that give any of the Nazis the right to assault Antifa members? By itself, no - unless an Antifa member punched a Nazi first (and, let's be completely fair here - we all are reasonably sure that Antifa threw the first punch), the Nazis had no right to be physically violent. They sure as s*** had no right to get in a car and run people over, and I hope that dude gets thrown in prison. However, without a permit, Antifa had no right to be there, and are therefore somewhat culpable for what happened.


    Um what a totally fair and unbiased viewpoint LOL
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    Sir Will 1 week ago#74
    I wonder what it's like to be so lacking in human emotions as to defend Nazis.
    River Song: Well, I was off to this gay gypsy bar mitzvah for the disabled when I thought 'Gosh, the Third Reich's a bit rubbish, I think i'll kill the Fuhrer'
    Annihilated 1 week ago#75
    Sir Will posted...
    I wonder what it's like to be so lacking in human emotions as to defend Nazis.


    I wonder what it's like to be so lacking in human emotions as to defend unprovoked violence and supression of basic human rights.
    Zikten 1 week ago#76
    Sir Will posted...
    I wonder what it's like to be so lacking in human emotions as to defend Nazis.

    I wonder what it's like to be so lacking in common sense as to mistake defending free speech for condoning said speech

    this is why that one free speech group always got accused of being racist. they always defended the rights of groups like the KKK and people went insane over that. Because some people can't understand that you can be for free speech without being on the same side as the group. and also, another important lesson: if you don't allow free speech for people you hate, then you don;t allow free speech at all. it's all or nothing with free speech. Yuo can't pick and choose
    Zeeak4444 1 week ago#77
    I wonder what it's like.
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    Kineth  BLM sympathizer1 week ago#78
    CableZL posted...
    Can we at least quote him accurately?

    If I had a son, he’d look like Trayvon,” Obama said. “When I think about this boy, I think about my own kids.”

    and

    ElatedVenusaur posted...
    CrimsonRage posted...
    I still don't see what was so wrong with him saying that tbh
    If you're not looking for any honest discussion, agreement, meeting halfway or middle ground, don't bother arguing with me. Selfish narcissists need not apply.
    Kineth  BLM sympathizer1 week ago#79
    Annihilated posted...
    Sir Will posted...
    I wonder what it's like to be so lacking in human emotions as to defend Nazis.


    I wonder what it's like to be so lacking in human emotions as to defend unprovoked violence and supression of basic human rights.


    Nazis are inhuman. You literally have more criticism for Obama's words in this topic than you do for Nazis. How about you stop defending white supremacy or at least be a man and own up to your s***?
    If you're not looking for any honest discussion, agreement, meeting halfway or middle ground, don't bother arguing with me. Selfish narcissists need not apply.
    jumi 1 week ago#80
    Milkman5 posted...
    thing I have ever heard. 

    Obama : "Trayvon could have been my son"

    No he couldn't have been

    Obama: "Oops, I meant Trayvon could have been me"

    No he couldn't have been

    Obama: "Oops, I meant to say that we are both black"



    I'm sure Obama didn't write that line, but christ lmao


    Ever? So I take it you never heard "Pokemon Go to the polls!"
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    yemmy 1 week ago#81
    jesus f***ing christ people still arguing about this s*** on here 5 years later
    p226
    Annihilated 1 week ago#82
    Kineth posted...
    You literally have more criticism for Obama's words in this topic than you do for Nazis.


    And you are a liar as usual.

    Kineth posted...
    How about you stop defending white supremacy or at least be a man and own up to your s***?


    How about I keep my freedom of speech and you go f*** off?
    Kineth  BLM sympathizer1 week ago#83
    Annihilated posted...
    Kineth posted...
    You literally have more criticism for Obama's words in this topic than you do for Nazis.


    And you are a liar as usual.


    You've got a lot of nerve calling me a liar when the evidence is in this very f***ing topic. Once again, how about you be a man and own up to your s***.

    How about I keep my freedom of speech and you go f*** off?


    Your freedom of speech was never in danger. Read a f***ing book and learn what you're talking about and also learn how to be a man and stand behind your words instead of slouching and shrugging them off.
    If you're not looking for any honest discussion, agreement, meeting halfway or middle ground, don't bother arguing with me. Selfish narcissists need not apply.
    Kineth posted...
    CableZL posted...
    Can we at least quote him accurately?

    If I had a son, he’d look like Trayvon,” Obama said. “When I think about this boy, I think about my own kids.”

    and

    ElatedVenusaur posted...
    CrimsonRage posted...
    I still don't see what was so wrong with him saying that tbh
    Waluigi7 1 week ago#85
    TC has a problem with Obama saying that because he's alt-right.
    Gonna go out on a limb and guess that you are a trump supporter
    -UnfairRepresent
    BLAKUboy posted...
    CrimsonRage posted...
    I still don't see what was so wrong with him saying that tbh

    I'd not-so-subtly imply racism, but knowing this site that would probably get modded quicker than actual racism.

    Everything is because racism.
    Dathrowed1 1 week ago#87
    "Trayvon could have been my son" and "Cool clock Ahmed. Want to bring it to the White house?" are probably the most regrettable and embarrassing things he said while president.
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    Callixtus 1 week ago#88
    f***ing Clock Boy
    Liberal Arrogance:Academics are overwhelmingly liberal because the nature of the job, seeking information for the good of humanity, self selects liberals--COVxy
    Obama is the reason liberals are so crazy these days.
    His "Most transparent administration in history" was the biggest joke statement of his presidency. 

    Complete bulls***.
    Off with the horns,
    On with the show!
    darkjedilink posted...
    Sir Will posted...
    Sir Will posted...
    http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/2017/aug/17/donald-trump/donald-trump-wrong-charlottesville-counter-protest/

    Did you read that? Their permit was for two totally different locations than where they fought with the Nazis.

    Ergo, they literally did not have permission to be where they were.

    Did you read it?

    "In addition, Dickler of the city of Charlottesville said that counter-protesters would have been permitted even outside of the two park locations specified in the permit. "A permit does not bar other individuals from entry to a public park (such as Emancipation Park), nor does it restrict who can be on streets or sidewalks outside of and/or adjacent to the park."

    Looks like you just ran out of excuses. Still gonna defend the Nazis now, boy?
    jumi 1 week ago#92
    ImPickleRick posted...
    Obama is the reason racists are so rampant these days.


    FTFY
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    Kineth  BLM sympathizer1 week ago#93
    UncleBourbon33 posted...
    BLAKUboy posted...
    CrimsonRage posted...
    I still don't see what was so wrong with him saying that tbh

    I'd not-so-subtly imply racism, but knowing this site that would probably get modded quicker than actual racism.

    Everything is because racism.


    That's an easy cop-out to attempt invalidate any claims of racism whether they are valid or not, because people use it as justification too much. A critical mind should be able to discern that things aren't only one or the other, but rather have both instances, outliers, false claims, other cause, and no relevance.

    Dathrowed1 posted...
    "Trayvon could have been my son" and "Cool clock Ahmed. Want to bring it to the White house?" are probably the most regrettable and embarrassing things he said while president.


    CableZL posted...
    Can we at least quote him accurately?
    If I had a son, he’d look like Trayvon,” Obama said. “When I think about this boy, I think about my own kids.”

    and

    ElatedVenusaur posted...
    CrimsonRage posted...
    I still don't see what was so wrong with him saying that tbh


    Also I don't get what's so bad about the other quote either. Honestly, I'm pretty sure that there are likely legit worse quotes from Obama, but I'm not looking to change the subject.
    If you're not looking for any honest discussion, agreement, meeting halfway or middle ground, don't bother arguing with me. Selfish narcissists need not apply.
    asdf8562 1 week ago#94
    jumi posted...
    ImPickleRick posted...
    Obama is the reason racists are so rampant these days.


    FTFY

    Delusional people actually believe this.

    Racism never died in the first place. It just went into hiding. Theres also areas in the states that were always full of racist and the issue was never addressed. Obama is not the reason.

    People are delusional to think racism died after the 60s or it just magically changed peopkes hearts just like that. Stormfront or w/e for example was a thing long before Obamas presidency. Closet racist are still around, the only difference is many are coming out the closet about it.
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    Kineth  BLM sympathizer1 week ago#95
    asdf8562 posted...
    jumi posted...
    ImPickleRick posted...
    Obama is the reason racists are so rampant these days.


    FTFY

    Delusional people actually believe this.

    Racism never died in the first place. It just went into hiding. Theres also areas in the states that were always full of racist and the issue was never addressed. Obama is not the reason.

    People are delusional to think racism died after the 60s or it just magically changed peopkes hearts just like that. Stormfront or w/e for example was a thing long before Obamas presidency. Closet racist are still around, the only difference is many are coming out the closet about it.


    I think @jumi's statement is valid if you consider it to mean that his presence was the reason/incentive/impetus/turning point that got people like that uneasy and mobilized to slowly come out of the closet as they found people they could open up to about their long lingering feelings. There was a documented increase in the amount of white supremacist organizations nationwide as well as recruitment and activity during Obama's presidency.

    I don't think Obama's responsible for it because how the f*** can you blame somebody for living and only simply doing their f***ing job? I do, however, think that he is very relevant piece of the full, true answer to the question.

    If that is not what he intended to say then, that's at least how I would say it.
    If you're not looking for any honest discussion, agreement, meeting halfway or middle ground, don't bother arguing with me. Selfish narcissists need not apply.
    yemmy 1 week ago#96
    obama did his hand in dividing the nation way before trump got started 

    not even the race s***, more like hammering us about gun laws after muslims shoot up a christmas party, instead of blaming isis, basically refusing to admit there is a problem with islamic terrorism. 

    regardless of what the media would have you believe (both sides, fox and msnbc) only a vocal minority of people like trump (or still like trump), obama made it to where you weren't 'cool' if you didn't like him, oh s*** HE'S DOING THE DOUGIE lol. Piece of s*** president, if we don't replace the ACA it will implode on itself and really that is about the only thing he ever got done.
    p226
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    yemmy posted...
    basically refusing to admit there is a problem with islamic terrorism.


    You can always tell when someone's media diet is full of nothing but O'Reilly, Limbaugh and Brietbart. Obama regularly called out ISIS and Al Qaida.
    IWBYD 1 week ago#98
    Nothing wrong with the quote. And lol at Obama being racists. Maybe against Black people (joke as he's not, he just...didn't help them in anyway). Against anyone else? Nah. That's been disproven.
    yemmy 1 week ago#100
    That_Happened posted...
    yemmy posted...
    basically refusing to admit there is a problem with islamic terrorism.


    You can always tell when someone's media diet is full of nothing but O'Reilly, Limbaugh and Brietbart. Obama regularly called out ISIS and Al Qaida.


    I was more speaking about him blaming domestic terrorism on the guns and not the actual ideology of said people (even trying to disprove ISIS loyalty in a lot of cases, like the Orlando guy who called 911 to pledge allegiance to ISIS, but no, he shot up the club because he was gay himself). But yeah, way to context.
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      Knowledge_King posted...
      Nothing wrong with the quote. And lol at Obama being racists. Maybe against Black people (joke as he's not, he just...didn't help them in anyway). Against anyone else? Nah. That's been disproven.

      How has it been disproven, when he's literally never been right about a racial issue, siding with black people regardless of situation?
      'It's okay that those gangbangers stole all my personal belongings and cash at gunpoint, cuz they're building a rec center!' - OneTimeBen
      That_Happened posted...
      yemmy posted...
      basically refusing to admit there is a problem with islamic terrorism.


      You can always tell when someone's media diet is full of nothing but O'Reilly, Limbaugh and Brietbart. Obama regularly called out ISIS and Al Qaida.


      Irregularly and more importantly he actively downplayed the relivance of religion and got mad at peope who brought it up.

      That's unhelpful and divides people

      It directly led to things like this:

      ^ Hey now that's completely unfair.
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      yemmy posted...
      That_Happened posted...
      yemmy posted...
      basically refusing to admit there is a problem with islamic terrorism.

      You can always tell when someone's media diet is full of nothing but O'Reilly, Limbaugh and Brietbart. Obama regularly called out ISIS and Al Qaida.

      I was more speaking about him blaming domestic terrorism on the guns and not the actual ideology of said people (even trying to disprove ISIS loyalty in a lot of cases, like the Orlando guy who called 911 to pledge allegiance to ISIS, but no, he shot up the club because he was gay himself). But yeah, way to context.

      Don't forget that Benghazi was a 'peaceful protest' caused by free speech, and not an al-Queda terror attack.
      'It's okay that those gangbangers stole all my personal belongings and cash at gunpoint, cuz they're building a rec center!' - OneTimeBen
      UnfairRepresent posted...

      It led to someone on Fox News calling Obama a p****? 

      This was supposed to disprove my earlier statement about recognizing when one's media diet was full of conservative bulls***?
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      darkjedilink posted...
      Don't forget that Benghazi was a 'peaceful protest' caused by free speech, and not an al-Queda terror attack.


      Obama literally called Benghazi a "peaceful protest?"
      Sir Will 1 week ago#106
      That_Happened posted...
      darkjedilink posted...
      Don't forget that Benghazi was a 'peaceful protest' caused by free speech, and not an al-Queda terror attack.


      Obama literally called Benghazi a "peaceful protest?"

      Not in that way.
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      Sir Will posted...
      That_Happened posted...
      darkjedilink posted...
      Don't forget that Benghazi was a 'peaceful protest' caused by free speech, and not an al-Queda terror attack.


      Obama literally called Benghazi a "peaceful protest?"

      Not in that way.


      Of course. I've never seen darkjedilink tell the truth.
      Zeus 1 week ago#108
      Milkman5 posted...
      thing I have ever heard. 

      Obama : "Trayvon could have been my son"

      No he couldn't have been

      Obama: "Oops, I meant Trayvon could have been me"

      No he couldn't have been

      Obama: "Oops, I meant to say that we are both black"

      I'm sure Obama didn't write that line, but christ lmao


      Which, tbh, was a stupid and tone-deaf move. And, if Obama had a son, that son would have just waited inside the building and called the cops instead of going out to confront then assault the guy following him. 

      ThePrinceFish posted...
      Remember when Kobe Bryant got attacked for not going after Zimmerman and he said he didn't give a s*** and he shouldn't be expected to just because he's black?


      Which, in some senses, is the right way to respond to it. Granted, I'm sure he wasn't so callous. 

      NadYobWoc posted...
      Eh, I see what he was saying.

      The cringiest moment of Obama's presidency in retrospect was the "at least I'll go down as a president" jab at Trump.


      Which is a funny moment in hindsight, although not an unreasonable jab given that Trump was on the campaign trail (the clip is apparently from October 2016?) and trailing Hillary at that point. 



      darkjedilink posted...
      Knowledge_King posted...
      Nothing wrong with the quote. And lol at Obama being racists. Maybe against Black people (joke as he's not, he just...didn't help them in anyway). Against anyone else? Nah. That's been disproven.

      How has it been disproven, when he's literally never been right about a racial issue, siding with black people regardless of situation?


      Pretty much this. And he NEVER learned, either. The Beer Summit incident happened early on in his presidency, then he kept automatically siding with blacks before hearing any facts.
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      cjsdowg 1 week ago#110
      He liken Martin to everyone's child as well. But the media likes to hit on one thing when b****ing about Obama. But hey as long as they are doing to protect a Thug like Zimmerman no worries.



      Zeus posted...

      Pretty much this. And he NEVER learned, either. The Beer Summit incident happened early on in his presidency, then he kept automatically siding with blacks before hearing any facts


      And the facts is the Zimmerman killed a child, lied about what happen, and ever since has been having run in after run in with the police. But the kid was black so someone like you think he must have been in the wrong.
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      darkjedilink posted...
      Knowledge_King posted...
      Nothing wrong with the quote. And lol at Obama being racists. Maybe against Black people (joke as he's not, he just...didn't help them in anyway). Against anyone else? Nah. That's been disproven.

      How has it been disproven, when he's literally never been right about a racial issue, siding with black people regardless of situation?


      Being right =/= racist. Also he was literally right on all of them btw. 

      He's done more for every other race and has shown that he doesn't irrationally hate them. Thus he's not racist.
      That_Happened posted...
      UnfairRepresent posted...

      It led to someone on Fox News calling Obama a p****? 

      This was supposed to disprove my earlier statement about recognizing when one's media diet was full of conservative bulls***?

      "Obama didn't divide anyone! Half the people just said he divided them and the other half didn't!"

      *facepalm*
      ^ Hey now that's completely unfair.
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      Knowledge_King posted...
      Being right =/= racist. Also he was literally right on all of them btw.

      Defending Michael Brown, Trayvonn Martin, and Alton Sterling makes him 'right?' Attacking cops for 'acting stupidly' when they were just doing their jobs is 'right?'

      What's wrong with you?
      'It's okay that those gangbangers stole all my personal belongings and cash at gunpoint, cuz they're building a rec center!' - OneTimeBen
      Zeus posted...
      And he NEVER learned, either. The Beer Summit incident happened early on in his presidency, then he kept automatically siding with blacks before hearing any facts.

      That's EXACTLY my point. It isn't like it's only a few incidents - literally every time he spoke on issues like this, he IMMEDIATELY accused racism, and that the black person in question was an innocent victim.

      He was wrong literally every time.
      'It's okay that those gangbangers stole all my personal belongings and cash at gunpoint, cuz they're building a rec center!' - OneTimeBen
      UnfairRepresent posted...
      That_Happened posted...
      UnfairRepresent posted...

      It led to someone on Fox News calling Obama a p****? 

      This was supposed to disprove my earlier statement about recognizing when one's media diet was full of conservative bulls***?

      "Obama didn't divide anyone! Half the people just said he divided them and the other half didn't!"

      *facepalm*

      Like every other president in recent history. It wasn't Obama that caused it. Nor was it bush or Clinton.
      darkjedilink posted...
      Zeus posted...
      And he NEVER learned, either. The Beer Summit incident happened early on in his presidency, then he kept automatically siding with blacks before hearing any facts.

      That's EXACTLY my point. It isn't like it's only a few incidents - literally every time he spoke on issues like this, he IMMEDIATELY accused racism, and that the black person in question was an innocent victim.

      He was wrong literally every time.


      Even if he was wrong every time (which I don't believe he was but whatever), none of that makes him racist.
      CrimsonRage posted...
      darkjedilink posted...
      Zeus posted...
      And he NEVER learned, either. The Beer Summit incident happened early on in his presidency, then he kept automatically siding with blacks before hearing any facts.

      That's EXACTLY my point. It isn't like it's only a few incidents - literally every time he spoke on issues like this, he IMMEDIATELY accused racism, and that the black person in question was an innocent victim.

      He was wrong literally every time.


      Even if he was wrong every time (which I don't believe he was but whatever), none of that makes him racist.

      Darkjedi has defended the actions of the white nationalists and neo nazis in Charlottesville. He is not a good judge of what is legitimately racist.
      Kineth  BLM sympathizer6 days ago#118
      That_Happened posted...
      CrimsonRage posted...
      darkjedilink posted...
      Zeus posted...
      And he NEVER learned, either. The Beer Summit incident happened early on in his presidency, then he kept automatically siding with blacks before hearing any facts.

      That's EXACTLY my point. It isn't like it's only a few incidents - literally every time he spoke on issues like this, he IMMEDIATELY accused racism, and that the black person in question was an innocent victim.

      He was wrong literally every time.


      Even if he was wrong every time (which I don't believe he was but whatever), none of that makes him racist.

      Darkjedi has defended the actions of the white nationalists and neo nazis in Charlottesville. He is not a good judge of what is legitimately racist.


      Yeah, that s*** is why I finally put him on ignore. Literally a racist troll.
      If you're not looking for any honest discussion, agreement, meeting halfway or middle ground, don't bother arguing with me. Selfish narcissists need not apply.
      byron 6 days ago#119
      Milkman5 posted...
      I liked Obama

      pretty sweet
      darkjedilink posted...
      Knowledge_King posted...
      Being right =/= racist. Also he was literally right on all of them btw.

      Defending Michael Brown, Trayvonn Martin, and Alton Sterling makes him 'right?' Attacking cops for 'acting stupidly' when they were just doing their jobs is 'right?'

      What's wrong with you?


      Yes Zimmerman was wrong. The cop who shot Michael Brown and Sterling is wrong. So he's batting 1.000
      Kineth posted...
      That_Happened posted...
      CrimsonRage posted...
      darkjedilink posted...
      Zeus posted...
      And he NEVER learned, either. The Beer Summit incident happened early on in his presidency, then he kept automatically siding with blacks before hearing any facts.

      That's EXACTLY my point. It isn't like it's only a few incidents - literally every time he spoke on issues like this, he IMMEDIATELY accused racism, and that the black person in question was an innocent victim.

      He was wrong literally every time.

      Even if he was wrong every time (which I don't believe he was but whatever), none of that makes him racist.

      Darkjedi has defended the actions of the white nationalists and neo nazis in Charlottesville. He is not a good judge of what is legitimately racist.

      Yeah, that s*** is why I finally put him on ignore. Literally a racist troll.

      These two people literally defend race-based segregation so long as it's black people suggesting it.
      'It's okay that those gangbangers stole all my personal belongings and cash at gunpoint, cuz they're building a rec center!' - OneTimeBen
      CrimsonRage posted...
      darkjedilink posted...
      Zeus posted...
      And he NEVER learned, either. The Beer Summit incident happened early on in his presidency, then he kept automatically siding with blacks before hearing any facts.

      That's EXACTLY my point. It isn't like it's only a few incidents - literally every time he spoke on issues like this, he IMMEDIATELY accused racism, and that the black person in question was an innocent victim.

      He was wrong literally every time.


      Even if he was wrong every time (which I don't believe he was but whatever), none of that makes him racist.

      Claiming violent attempted murderers being killed is racism multiple times isn't a red flag to you?

      Keep in mind that, on this board, anyone who suggests waiting for the evidence of wrongdoing whenever a cop is implicated is branded as a neo-Nazi.
      'It's okay that those gangbangers stole all my personal belongings and cash at gunpoint, cuz they're building a rec center!' - OneTimeBen
      darkjedilink posted...
      These two people literally

      Ah ah ah...not without a quote, boy. I have several direct quotes from you. And i'd be glad to post them if you need proof. ;)

      Mr. "The neo nazis were cool until they had their civil rights violated." (They weren't)

      Mr. "It wasn't the white nationalists fault: a militarized police squad pushed them into a fight with an armed Antifa mob." (Also a lie, no cops were there the first night when they clashed with Antifa)

      Mr. "Antifa didn't have permits (They did) and they had no right to be in the same park as the neo nazis" (legally it was a public park, NEITHER group had permits on Friday, and since it was an open public park anyone was allowed to be there)

      So, little boy, let's see you defend the neo nazis again.
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      darkjedilink posted...
      anyone who suggests waiting for the evidence of wrongdoing whenever a cop is implicated is branded as a neo-Nazi.

      Yet, there you are in the Michael Bennett topic doing exactly the opposite, and assuming he's a liar without waiting for all the evidence.

      So, are you always a hypocrite? Is this just a character flaw of yours?
      That_Happened posted...
      darkjedilink posted...
      anyone who suggests waiting for the evidence of wrongdoing whenever a cop is implicated is branded as a neo-Nazi.

      Yet, there you are in the Michael Bennett topic doing exactly the opposite, and assuming he's a liar without waiting for all the evidence.

      So, are you always a hypocrite? Is this just a character flaw of yours?

      Being a hypocrite doesn't mean his point is wrong
      ^ Hey now that's completely unfair.
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      UnfairRepresent posted...
      That_Happened posted...
      darkjedilink posted...
      anyone who suggests waiting for the evidence of wrongdoing whenever a cop is implicated is branded as a neo-Nazi.

      Yet, there you are in the Michael Bennett topic doing exactly the opposite, and assuming he's a liar without waiting for all the evidence.

      So, are you always a hypocrite? Is this just a character flaw of yours?

      Being a hypocrite doesn't mean his point is wrong

      No, I'm assuming he exaggerated because he offered no evidence. He made the accusation against the cop, yet we STILL have ZERO video evidence to support his theory? And I'm just supposed to believe him?

      That's what I'm talking about - zero evidence that Bennett is correct, yet because I don't immediately start chanting "WHAT DO WE WANT? DEAD COPS!!!" I'm a hypocrite? Actually demanding proof of Bennett's claim isn't hypocrisy. It's literally what everyone should do in a society where we suggest people are innocent until proven guilty.
      'It's okay that those gangbangers stole all my personal belongings and cash at gunpoint, cuz they're building a rec center!' - OneTimeBen
      That_Happened posted...
      UnfairRepresent posted...
      That_Happened posted...
      UnfairRepresent posted...

      It led to someone on Fox News calling Obama a p****? 

      This was supposed to disprove my earlier statement about recognizing when one's media diet was full of conservative bulls***?

      "Obama didn't divide anyone! Half the people just said he divided them and the other half didn't!"

      *facepalm*

      Like every other president in recent history. It wasn't Obama that caused it. Nor was it bush or Clinton.

      The majority of the population of America disagrees with you.

      They feel like Obama was divisive. Especially racially.
      ^ Hey now that's completely unfair.
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      darkjedilink posted...
      That's what I'm talking about - zero evidence that Bennett is correct, yet because I don't immediately start chanting "WHAT DO WE WANT? DEAD COPS!!!" I'm a hypocrite?

      No one wants you to shout that, hypocrite. We want you to say "hey, let's wait until all the evidence comes in before we decide." You don't have to pick a side at all. 

      So with Bennett you immediately accused him of being a liar and demanded proof otherwise. 

      But with the neo-nazis, you sided with them immediately, and demanded proof that you were wrong. And when the evidence did come out and proved you wrong, you stuck with your original opinion of defending them.

      So gtfoh with your high horse, boy.
      UnfairRepresent posted...
      The majority of the population of America disagrees with you.

      No, the majority of conservatives disagree with me. And their pundits are double-standardy as f*** when it comes to calling someone divisive.

      Obama wasn't actually more "divisive" than any other president before him. He was a Democrat and conservatives hated him because that's what they're trained to do. That "divisiveness" was standard for the nation..half the country voted for the president, the other half did not, repeat over and over.

      The actual divisiveness over the last 8 years came from the Republican party: Mitch McConnel immediately telling the conservatives to block anything Obama did, just days after he got elected; congressmen yelling "You lie!" at Obama while he's trying to give a speech; Repubs changing their strategy from actually debating the issues to telling their voters that Obama doesn't love America, and that he was "raised differently from Americans"; and all the bulls*** about his birth certificate. That's what caused the division. Republican lawmakers being little b****es instead of grown men. And that set the precedent for the 2016 election.

      Trump is the first president that is legitimately divisive, where it's not just about politics anymore but about whether this enormous child can hold onto his OWN people.
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      cjsdowg 6 days ago#130
      darkjedilink posted...

      No, I'm assuming he exaggerated because he offered no evidence. He made the accusation against the cop, yet we STILL have ZERO video evidence to support his theory? And I'm just supposed to believe him?

      That's what I'm talking about - zero evidence that Bennett is correct, yet because I don't immediately start chanting "WHAT DO WE WANT? DEAD COPS!!!" I'm a hypocrite? Actually demanding proof of Bennett's claim isn't hypocrisy. It's literally what everyone should do in a society where we suggest people are innocent until proven guilty.


      When the cop body cam some how stops working when they get called out .You might want to question what is going on .
      Bender: Well, everybody, I just saved a turtle. What have you done with your lives?
      That_Happened posted...

      No, the majority of conservatives disagree with me.

      Not according to Pew research it's most Americans
      ^ Hey now that's completely unfair.
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      UnfairRepresent posted...
      Not according to Pew research it's most Americans

      Link please.

      Also, consider the rest of the things I posted. Because when Obama took office only 46 percent of the nation thought the country was divided, but just a couple months into his presidency that number had risen to 61 percent. That's way before he had an opportunity to do much of anything. The GOP caused this divide the moment they lost that election, and they've been riding that ever since.
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      yemmy 6 days ago#133
      Knowledge_King posted...
      Yes Zimmerman was wrong. The cop who shot Michael Brown and Sterling is wrong. So he's batting 1.000


      this is why I'll state my opinion on CE and not go back and forth arguing with people here. 

      there are people who literally believe the Ferguson PD, state of Missouri, and the FBI (being led by Obama and Eric Holder) just cooked up the whole Mike Brown crime scene to hide the fact that he was some innocent boy who didn't do nuffin but do a strongarm robbery 5 minutes before his demise (cultural differences, eh?).
      p226
      cjsdowg posted...
      darkjedilink posted...

      No, I'm assuming he exaggerated because he offered no evidence. He made the accusation against the cop, yet we STILL have ZERO video evidence to support his theory? And I'm just supposed to believe him?

      That's what I'm talking about - zero evidence that Bennett is correct, yet because I don't immediately start chanting "WHAT DO WE WANT? DEAD COPS!!!" I'm a hypocrite? Actually demanding proof of Bennett's claim isn't hypocrisy. It's literally what everyone should do in a society where we suggest people are innocent until proven guilty.


      When the cop body cam some how stops working when they get called out .You might want to question what is going on .

      When something like 127 different videos were made of it, and the ONLY evidence to support his claim is a still photo from ONE of them, you might want to question what he's claiming.

      Burden of proof is ALWAYS on the one making the claim. He claims they pointed guns at his head and threatened to blow his f***ing head off. It's been, what, four days? And NOTHING that actually shows either happening has surfaced?
      'It's okay that those gangbangers stole all my personal belongings and cash at gunpoint, cuz they're building a rec center!' - OneTimeBen
      yemmy posted...
      Knowledge_King posted...
      Yes Zimmerman was wrong. The cop who shot Michael Brown and Sterling is wrong. So he's batting 1.000

      this is why I'll state my opinion on CE and not go back and forth arguing with people here. 

      there are people who literally believe the Ferguson PD, state of Missouri, and the FBI (being led by Obama and Eric Holder) just cooked up the whole Mike Brown crime scene to hide the fact that he was some innocent boy who didn't do nuffin but do a strongarm robbery 5 minutes before his demise (cultural differences, eh?).

      There are people who also believe that the cops in the Sterling case somehow managed to fake every piece of video evidence showing Sterling armed, and that Zimmerman bought off or threatened all twelve eyewitnesses that supported his case, including Martin's own girlfriend.
      'It's okay that those gangbangers stole all my personal belongings and cash at gunpoint, cuz they're building a rec center!' - OneTimeBen
      SSJ4Broly 6 days ago#136
      Broly could have been Bardock's son.
      SSJ4Broly posted...
      Broly could have been Bardock's son.


      Okay that legit made me laugh, thank you.

      But whoever it was that said the GOP really fostered the current divide is completely on point. I've followed politics since about 2002 and even during the most polarizing parts of the Bush presidency you had lawmakers trying to make things work, once Obama got in office the GOP went full on hate mode and even started subtly set up the racists to get geared up to vote against the democrats.
      Immanentize the eschaton
      yemmy 6 days ago#138
      Unquestionable posted...
      SSJ4Broly posted...
      Broly could have been Bardock's son.


      Okay that legit made me laugh, thank you.

      But whoever it was that said the GOP really fostered the current divide is completely on point. I've followed politics since about 2002 and even during the most polarizing parts of the Bush presidency you had lawmakers trying to make things work, once Obama got in office the GOP went full on hate mode and even started subtly set up the racists to get geared up to vote against the democrats.


      oh it is the GOP responsible for everything bad that has happened, not just in politics, but in your personal life as well. not just since 2002, s*** the GOP is solely responsible for EVERYTHING bad that has happened EVER.

      what is ironic about your post is that you "foster divison" with your polarizing, generalizing statements, and don't even realize that you're helping the "divide".
      p226
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      FrisbeeDude  attack always6 days ago#139
      Identity politics are only ok when conservatives court racists for votes #BadPeopleOnBothSides #MakeAmericaGreatAgain #SmartWhiteRepublican
      No one gets in the way of my frisbee games! NO ONE!
      yemmy posted...


      oh it is the GOP responsible for everything bad that has happened, not just in politics, but in your personal life as well. not just since 2002, s*** the GOP is solely responsible for EVERYTHING bad that has happened EVER.

      what is ironic about your post is that you "foster divison" with your polarizing, generalizing statements, and don't even realize that you're helping the "divide".


      Happy to see you're drawing conclusions about my personal beliefs based on the fact I can read the writing on the wall. If you want to know my actual thoughts I think it's great Trump won because it's f***ing hilarious. The system is a wreck and has been for generations but to have it so blatantly displaced and not swept under the rug is great, with Hillary would have just been more of the same.

      Also the "irony" thing is great. Yeah I know it's not helping and I don't expect it to. But hey gotta have that daily internet outrage where you feel big for jumping on someone based off your preconceived notions so hat's off to you for meeting that quota.
      Immanentize the eschaton
      Antifar 6 days ago#141
      yemmy posted...
      oh it is the GOP responsible for everything bad that has happened, not just in politics, but in your personal life as well. not just since 2002, s*** the GOP is solely responsible for EVERYTHING bad that has happened EVER.

      what is ironic about your post is that you "foster divison" with your polarizing, generalizing statements, and don't even realize that you're helping the "divide".

      The guy just spoke the truth. If the truth is "polarizing," so be it. Pretending that all things are equally good and bad on both sides is dumb, and only serves to enable those willing to be worse.
      kin to all that throbs
      yemmy posted...
      Unquestionable posted...
      SSJ4Broly posted...
      Broly could have been Bardock's son.


      Okay that legit made me laugh, thank you.

      But whoever it was that said the GOP really fostered the current divide is completely on point. I've followed politics since about 2002 and even during the most polarizing parts of the Bush presidency you had lawmakers trying to make things work, once Obama got in office the GOP went full on hate mode and even started subtly set up the racists to get geared up to vote against the democrats.


      oh it is the GOP responsible for everything bad that has happened, not just in politics, but in your personal life as well. not just since 2002, s*** the GOP is solely responsible for EVERYTHING bad that has happened EVER.

      what is ironic about your post is that you "foster divison" with your polarizing, generalizing statements, and don't even realize that you're helping the "divide".


      That's a perfect example of what happened. A few people come in and explain exactly what took place, including examples and truth about specific lawmakers and exactly what they did to cause the divide when Obama was elected. And it was met with generalized, childish overreaction from conservatives like yemmy. He couldn't respond directly to what was said, so he went into a tailspin and started saying things like "oh I guess the GOP is responsible for EVERYTHING bad in your life then? That's exactly what conservative lawmakers did when they responded to Obama's specific comments about their plans, like "They want to take away the right to abortion" (true) with made up dramatic bulls*** like "Well Obama hates America!"

      I don't know what happened to make the GOP regress like this, but it definitely happened in 2008.
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      Waluigi7 5 days ago#143
      Why is it that every 'Libertarian' on this board is a huge racist?
      Gonna go out on a limb and guess that you are a trump supporter
      -UnfairRepresent
      ThyCorndog 5 days ago#144
      Waluigi7 posted...
      Why is it that every 'Libertarian' on this board is a huge racist?

      It's Not Racism. It's Race Realism™

      that's what every racist ass libertarian says anyway
      That_Happened posted...
      yemmy posted...
      Unquestionable posted...
      SSJ4Broly posted...
      Broly could have been Bardock's son.


      Okay that legit made me laugh, thank you.

      But whoever it was that said the GOP really fostered the current divide is completely on point. I've followed politics since about 2002 and even during the most polarizing parts of the Bush presidency you had lawmakers trying to make things work, once Obama got in office the GOP went full on hate mode and even started subtly set up the racists to get geared up to vote against the democrats.


      oh it is the GOP responsible for everything bad that has happened, not just in politics, but in your personal life as well. not just since 2002, s*** the GOP is solely responsible for EVERYTHING bad that has happened EVER.

      what is ironic about your post is that you "foster divison" with your polarizing, generalizing statements, and don't even realize that you're helping the "divide".


      That's a perfect example of what happened. .



      lol
      ^ Hey now that's completely unfair.
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      darkjedilink posted...
      yemmy posted...
      Knowledge_King posted...
      Yes Zimmerman was wrong. The cop who shot Michael Brown and Sterling is wrong. So he's batting 1.000

      this is why I'll state my opinion on CE and not go back and forth arguing with people here. 

      there are people who literally believe the Ferguson PD, state of Missouri, and the FBI (being led by Obama and Eric Holder) just cooked up the whole Mike Brown crime scene to hide the fact that he was some innocent boy who didn't do nuffin but do a strongarm robbery 5 minutes before his demise (cultural differences, eh?).

      There are people who also believe that the cops in the Sterling case somehow managed to fake every piece of video evidence showing Sterling armed, and that Zimmerman bought off or threatened all twelve eyewitnesses that supported his case, including Martin's own girlfriend.



      You both are making up things. 

      It literally doesn't matter if Mike Brown robbed 100 stores a day. He didn't deserve to be shot in that particular situation. The cop was wrong. 

      Same with Zimmerman shooting Trayvon. Even if Trayvon attacked him and beat him up, taking his life with a gun is wrong. Same thing with Sterling. No matter how you try to twist it, the cops/Zimmerman was wrong because they killed somebody with their guns in situations that didn't warrant it. 

      So Obama was right in those cases.
      Kineth  BLM sympathizer5 days ago#147
      Waluigi7 posted...
      Why is it that every 'Libertarian' on this board is a huge racist?


      I would like to say that I'm not a racist libertarian, but at the same time, I'm an actual libertarian and not the a wolf in sheep's clothing that's an authoritarian masquerading as a libertarian.
      If you're not looking for any honest discussion, agreement, meeting halfway or middle ground, don't bother arguing with me. Selfish narcissists need not apply.
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      NadYobWoc posted...
      Eh, I see what he was saying.

      The cringiest moment of Obama's presidency in retrospect was the "at least I'll go down as a president" jab at Trump.

      Uhh it was a dumb comment still. Trayvon was a tragedy but it wasn't a racism thing. 

      And the jab was funny before trump got elected
      I-I really needed this~~
      Time to stomp some faces!!!
      Waluigi7 5 days ago#149
      Kineth posted...
      Waluigi7 posted...
      Why is it that every 'Libertarian' on this board is a huge racist?

      wolf in sheep's clothing that's an authoritarian masquerading as a libertarian.

      Yeah, that's who I was referring to.

      There are a lot of those on this board.
      Gonna go out on a limb and guess that you are a trump supporter
      -UnfairRepresent
      Kineth posted...
      Waluigi7 posted...
      Why is it that every 'Libertarian' on this board is a huge racist?

      I would like to say that I'm not a racist libertarian, but at the same time, I'm an actual libertarian and not the a wolf in sheep's clothing that's an authoritarian masquerading as a libertarian.

      Bulls***. You're racist AND authoritarian.
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