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Why did the right call Obama a dictator?

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Some of them genuinely believed it too. In fact, a lot of them did. In what way was Obama a dictator?

Also, the same people calling him that are generally the ones who now want Trump to be one.
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TundraKing87 2 days ago#2
Dick fear.
Phantom_Nook 2 days ago#3
A big scary black man was President, so they went into maximum victim mode.
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crowkillers 2 days ago#4
Obama was just a guy filling a slot.. Not even close to being a dictator..
hoax123 2 days ago#5
Scary brown people.
Lock her up!
EightySix22 2 days ago#6
"Muh guns !"
"Michelle wants to force me to eat healthy stuff !"
Obama wasnt a dictator. Terrible ideas but not a dictator.
MAGA.
TaiIs82 1 day ago#8
- "Congress needs to vote on this, I'm not an emperor"

- Congress votes overwhelmingly against what Obama wants

- "I'm gonna go it alone and do it anyway!"

Repeat, repeat, repeat
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They called him a dictator AND a weakling who was soft on (insert perceived villain).
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Sczoyd 1 day ago#10
Ooh, remember when executive orders were a sign of dictatorship, despite the previous Republicans signing more? 

Then Trump comes along and the conservatives are like "Heck yeah, executive orders! We love those! Trump's working hard to make America great!"
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The_Undying_84 posted...
They called him a dictator AND a weakling who was soft on (insert perceived villain).



And then voted in a guy who was incredibly open about admiring dictators
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mad_hax_man posted...
The_Undying_84 posted...
They called him a dictator AND a weakling who was soft on (insert perceived villain).



And then voted in a guy who was incredibly open about admiring dictators


Obama looked up to Fidel Castro lol.
MAGA.
It was stupid then and it's stupid now.
Hyena 20 1 day ago#14
EightySix22 posted...
"Muh guns !"
"Michelle wants to force me to eat healthy stuff !"

"Death panels!"
"Obama's war on coal!"
"He forced gay marriage onto the states!!"
"Sending the IRS after the Tea Party!"

Also, the Obamacare mandate.

That of course, is assuming that you don't delve into the fringe stuff, like "Obama is an ISIS double-agent", "Jade Helm!!!", "false flag shootings", or "Obamacide" (Mind you, the people who believe in Jade Helm also think that Bush was a dictator)
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The right doesn't know what fascism or a dictatorship is obviously.

Then again right wingers don't know about a lot of things...
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Xtopher85 1 day ago#16
mad_hax_man posted...
The_Undying_84 posted...
They called him a dictator AND a weakling who was soft on (insert perceived villain).



And then voted in a guy who was incredibly open about admiring dictators


Exactly, and who has somehow made his base unaware that he is threatening the constitution at every turn while they shout "FREEDOM!".

His constant attacks against and undermining of the media are endangering our first amendment right to a free press.
His potential pardoning of Joe Arpaio would be an attack on not only our fifth and fourteenth amendment rights to privacy and due process, but also on the constitutional authority of the Judicial system that convicted Arpaio.
His maintaining of his personal businesses - which earn money from foreign sources - are a violation of the emoluments clause of the constitution.
His insistence on a Muslim travel ban violates our first amendment right to freedom of religion.
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Heineken14 1 day ago#17
TundraKing87 posted...
Dick fear.


Lol, better answer than I was going to give, and I also did an audible lol too.
Rage is a hell of an anesthetic.
The attacks were hilarious because Obama was somehow a dictator and the weakest president we've ever had at the same time according to the GOP.
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Heineken14 1 day ago#19
TorchOfLiberty posted...
It was stupid then and it's stupid now.


Knowing you, I'd be willing to bet you didn't have this same attitude back then.... but since you're a sad troll and can't keep an account for more than a few weeks, it's nigh on impossible to go back and check.
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Xtopher85 1 day ago#20
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RyanBraun8 1 day ago#22
The_Undying_84 posted...
They called him a dictator AND a weakling who was soft on (insert perceived villain).


There are a lot of stupid rightists.
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Xtopher85 posted...
mad_hax_man posted...
The_Undying_84 posted...
They called him a dictator AND a weakling who was soft on (insert perceived villain).



And then voted in a guy who was incredibly open about admiring dictators


Exactly, and who has somehow made his base unaware that he is threatening the constitution at every turn while they shout "FREEDOM!".

His constant attacks against and undermining of the media are endangering our first amendment right to a free press.
His potential pardoning of Joe Arpaio would be an attack on not only our fifth and fourteenth amendment rights to privacy and due process, but also on the constitutional authority of the Judicial system that convicted Arpaio.
His maintaining of his personal businesses - which earn money from foreign sources - are a violation of the emoluments clause of the constitution.
His insistence on a Muslim travel ban violates our first amendment right to freedom of religion.


Does it violate our first amendment rights if he is banning non-citizens? Genuine question, not trolling.
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Xtopher85 1 day ago#24
DigitalFury_ posted...
Xtopher85 posted...
mad_hax_man posted...
The_Undying_84 posted...
They called him a dictator AND a weakling who was soft on (insert perceived villain).



And then voted in a guy who was incredibly open about admiring dictators


Exactly, and who has somehow made his base unaware that he is threatening the constitution at every turn while they shout "FREEDOM!".

His constant attacks against and undermining of the media are endangering our first amendment right to a free press.
His potential pardoning of Joe Arpaio would be an attack on not only our fifth and fourteenth amendment rights to privacy and due process, but also on the constitutional authority of the Judicial system that convicted Arpaio.
His maintaining of his personal businesses - which earn money from foreign sources - are a violation of the emoluments clause of the constitution.
His insistence on a Muslim travel ban violates our first amendment right to freedom of religion.


Does it violate our first amendment rights if he is banning non-citizens? Genuine question, not trolling.

I suppose not. So that's not directly a violation of the constitution, just a violation of the moral good that the US used to represent.
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tankboy 1 day ago#25
He took away our guns and made us all Muslim!
Xtopher85 posted...
DigitalFury_ posted...
Xtopher85 posted...
mad_hax_man posted...
The_Undying_84 posted...
They called him a dictator AND a weakling who was soft on (insert perceived villain).



And then voted in a guy who was incredibly open about admiring dictators


Exactly, and who has somehow made his base unaware that he is threatening the constitution at every turn while they shout "FREEDOM!".

His constant attacks against and undermining of the media are endangering our first amendment right to a free press.
His potential pardoning of Joe Arpaio would be an attack on not only our fifth and fourteenth amendment rights to privacy and due process, but also on the constitutional authority of the Judicial system that convicted Arpaio.
His maintaining of his personal businesses - which earn money from foreign sources - are a violation of the emoluments clause of the constitution.
His insistence on a Muslim travel ban violates our first amendment right to freedom of religion.


Does it violate our first amendment rights if he is banning non-citizens? Genuine question, not trolling.

I suppose not. So that's not directly a violation of the constitution, just a violation of the moral good that the US used to represent.

1st Amendment
"Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances."

Where does it say it applies to citizens only?
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zeppelin4ever42 posted...
Xtopher85 posted...
DigitalFury_ posted...
Xtopher85 posted...
mad_hax_man posted...
The_Undying_84 posted...
They called him a dictator AND a weakling who was soft on (insert perceived villain).



And then voted in a guy who was incredibly open about admiring dictators


Exactly, and who has somehow made his base unaware that he is threatening the constitution at every turn while they shout "FREEDOM!".

His constant attacks against and undermining of the media are endangering our first amendment right to a free press.
His potential pardoning of Joe Arpaio would be an attack on not only our fifth and fourteenth amendment rights to privacy and due process, but also on the constitutional authority of the Judicial system that convicted Arpaio.
His maintaining of his personal businesses - which earn money from foreign sources - are a violation of the emoluments clause of the constitution.
His insistence on a Muslim travel ban violates our first amendment right to freedom of religion.


Does it violate our first amendment rights if he is banning non-citizens? Genuine question, not trolling.

I suppose not. So that's not directly a violation of the constitution, just a violation of the moral good that the US used to represent.

1st Amendment
"Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances."

Where does it say it applies to citizens only?

It doesn't directly but the preamble for the constitution states it is for the people of the United States. If you're not a citizen of the United States then you're not one of its people.
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TonyKojima 1 day ago#28
DigitalFury_ posted...
zeppelin4ever42 posted...
Xtopher85 posted...
DigitalFury_ posted...
Xtopher85 posted...
mad_hax_man posted...
The_Undying_84 posted...
They called him a dictator AND a weakling who was soft on (insert perceived villain).



And then voted in a guy who was incredibly open about admiring dictators


Exactly, and who has somehow made his base unaware that he is threatening the constitution at every turn while they shout "FREEDOM!".

His constant attacks against and undermining of the media are endangering our first amendment right to a free press.
His potential pardoning of Joe Arpaio would be an attack on not only our fifth and fourteenth amendment rights to privacy and due process, but also on the constitutional authority of the Judicial system that convicted Arpaio.
His maintaining of his personal businesses - which earn money from foreign sources - are a violation of the emoluments clause of the constitution.
His insistence on a Muslim travel ban violates our first amendment right to freedom of religion.


Does it violate our first amendment rights if he is banning non-citizens? Genuine question, not trolling.

I suppose not. So that's not directly a violation of the constitution, just a violation of the moral good that the US used to represent.

1st Amendment
"Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances."

Where does it say it applies to citizens only?

It doesn't directly but the preamble for the constitution states it is for the people of the United States. If you're not a citizen of the United States then you're not one of its people.

Irrelevant. Not everything has to be taken word for word. The Constitution is certainly not meant to be.
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TonyKojima posted...
Irrelevant. Not everything has to be taken word for word. The Constitution is certainly not meant to be.

What? How is it irrelevant? How can the constitution and bill of rights be extended to people who are citizens of other countries, which presumably have their own sets of laws?
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Xtopher85 1 day ago#31
DigitalFury_ posted...
TonyKojima posted...
Irrelevant. Not everything has to be taken word for word. The Constitution is certainly not meant to be.

What? How is it irrelevant? How can the constitution and bill of rights be extended to people who are citizens of other countries, which presumably have their own sets of laws?

I see your point but coming at it from a humanist perspective, wouldn't we wish every country shared identical constitutions to ours?
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DigitalFury_ 23 hours ago#32
Xtopher85 posted...
DigitalFury_ posted...
TonyKojima posted...
Irrelevant. Not everything has to be taken word for word. The Constitution is certainly not meant to be.

What? How is it irrelevant? How can the constitution and bill of rights be extended to people who are citizens of other countries, which presumably have their own sets of laws?

I see your point but coming at it from a humanist perspective, wouldn't we wish every country shared identical constitutions to ours?

I guess that depends on whether or not you believe we are the moral compass by which people should navigate their own laws and freedoms. It also assumes that each country is governed by capable politicians, elected by a well-informed populace.
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Itoldyaso 23 hours ago#33
DICK tator.
Xtopher85 posted...
DigitalFury_ posted...
TonyKojima posted...
Irrelevant. Not everything has to be taken word for word. The Constitution is certainly not meant to be.

What? How is it irrelevant? How can the constitution and bill of rights be extended to people who are citizens of other countries, which presumably have their own sets of laws?

I see your point but coming at it from a humanist perspective, wouldn't we wish every country shared identical constitutions to ours?

"We the People of the United States, in Order to form a more perfect Union, establish Justice, insure domestic Tranquility, provide for the common defence, promote the general Welfare, and secure the Blessings of Liberty to ourselves and our Posterity, do ordain and establish this Constitution for the United States of America."

It says nothing of only applying to citizens. Otherwise we could just sentence any foreigner on our soil without trial 

The rightwing, supposed upholders of the Constitution, tend to ignore what it actually states

In the Alternative Constitution, rights are only applied to white US citizens in the top 1% that vote for the magic R. Unless a Republican politician says otherwise, in which case say goodbye America, hello Guantanamo
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CyborgSage00x0 23 hours ago#35
The right called him whatever boogeyman of the moment they were peddling.
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Xtopher85 22 hours ago#36
zeppelin4ever42 posted...
Xtopher85 posted...
DigitalFury_ posted...
TonyKojima posted...
Irrelevant. Not everything has to be taken word for word. The Constitution is certainly not meant to be.

What? How is it irrelevant? How can the constitution and bill of rights be extended to people who are citizens of other countries, which presumably have their own sets of laws?

I see your point but coming at it from a humanist perspective, wouldn't we wish every country shared identical constitutions to ours?

"We the People of the United States, in Order to form a more perfect Union, establish Justice, insure domestic Tranquility, provide for the common defence, promote the general Welfare, and secure the Blessings of Liberty to ourselves and our Posterity, do ordain and establish this Constitution for the United States of America."

It says nothing of only applying to citizens. Otherwise we could just sentence any foreigner on our soil without trial 

The rightwing, supposed upholders of the Constitution, tend to ignore what it actually states

In the Alternative Constitution, rights are only applied to white US citizens in the top 1% that vote for the magic R. Unless a Republican politician says otherwise, in which case say goodbye America, hello Guantanamo

Right. The declaration of Independence also stated the following (not that this governs any sort of US law):

We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness.

It does not state that those inalienable rights need only to apply to US citizens. In fact, at the time of its writing, those writing it would have been considered citizens of the United Kingdom.
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The_Undying_84 22 hours ago#37
DigitalFury_ posted...
Xtopher85 posted...
mad_hax_man posted...
The_Undying_84 posted...
They called him a dictator AND a weakling who was soft on (insert perceived villain).



And then voted in a guy who was incredibly open about admiring dictators


Exactly, and who has somehow made his base unaware that he is threatening the constitution at every turn while they shout "FREEDOM!".

His constant attacks against and undermining of the media are endangering our first amendment right to a free press.
His potential pardoning of Joe Arpaio would be an attack on not only our fifth and fourteenth amendment rights to privacy and due process, but also on the constitutional authority of the Judicial system that convicted Arpaio.
His maintaining of his personal businesses - which earn money from foreign sources - are a violation of the emoluments clause of the constitution.
His insistence on a Muslim travel ban violates our first amendment right to freedom of religion.


Does it violate our first amendment rights if he is banning non-citizens? Genuine question, not trolling.


I say yes. People coming into our country are prospective citizens, immigrating here is a requirement for citizenship. Therefore discriminating against immigrants on the basis of religion is creating a religious test for citizenship, which is clearly a violation of the first amendment.
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Red XlV 22 hours ago#38
DigitalFury_ posted...
It doesn't directly but the preamble for the constitution states it is for the people of the United States. If you're not a citizen of the United States then you're not one of its people.

This reflects a basic lack of comprehension of how the Constitution even works. It spells out what the government can and can't do. Unless a provision of the Constitution specifically mentions citizens when prohibiting a government action, it means the government can't do that particular thing to anybody.
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TheY2AProblem 20 hours ago#39
"I have a pen and I have a phone."

Gee, I don't have the foggiest of ideas.
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action52 20 hours ago#40
The_Undying_84 posted...
DigitalFury_ posted...
Xtopher85 posted...
mad_hax_man posted...
The_Undying_84 posted...
They called him a dictator AND a weakling who was soft on (insert perceived villain).



And then voted in a guy who was incredibly open about admiring dictators


Exactly, and who has somehow made his base unaware that he is threatening the constitution at every turn while they shout "FREEDOM!".

His constant attacks against and undermining of the media are endangering our first amendment right to a free press.
His potential pardoning of Joe Arpaio would be an attack on not only our fifth and fourteenth amendment rights to privacy and due process, but also on the constitutional authority of the Judicial system that convicted Arpaio.
His maintaining of his personal businesses - which earn money from foreign sources - are a violation of the emoluments clause of the constitution.
His insistence on a Muslim travel ban violates our first amendment right to freedom of religion.


Does it violate our first amendment rights if he is banning non-citizens? Genuine question, not trolling.


I say yes. People coming into our country are prospective citizens, immigrating here is a requirement for citizenship. Therefore discriminating against immigrants on the basis of religion is creating a religious test for citizenship, which is clearly a violation of the first amendment.

Also remember that the original version of the order also affected Americans with dual citizenship.
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Red XlV 14 hours ago#41
TheY2AProblem posted...
"I have a pen and I have a phone."

Gee, I don't have the foggiest of ideas.

You don't have the foggiest of ideas about anything, do you?
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atmasabr 14 hours ago#42
hivebent4life posted...
Some of them genuinely believed it too. In fact, a lot of them did. In what way was Obama a dictator?

Also, the same people calling him that are generally the ones who now want Trump to be one.


You could do far worse to research the answer to that question than listening to talk radio a few days
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OtakuD50 14 hours ago#43
TheY2AProblem posted...
"I have a pen and I have a phone."

Gee, I don't have the foggiest of ideas.


*googles quote for context*

*laughs my f***ing ass off that people were up in arms about this*
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Jimayo 14 hours ago#44
OtakuD50 posted...
TheY2AProblem posted...
"I have a pen and I have a phone."

Gee, I don't have the foggiest of ideas.


*googles quote for context*

*laughs my f***ing ass off that people were up in arms about this*


@OtakuD50

That was nothing.

At this point in former President Barack Obama's tenure as the leader of the free world, right-wing news outlets were condemning his use of Dijon mustard as a condiment. Yes, really.


http://www.newsweek.com/barack-obama-donald-trump-russia-investigation-dijon-mustard-scandal-fox-fake-623643

The right went utterly insane when a black man was elected president.
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RyanBraun8 14 hours ago#45
OtakuD50 posted...
TheY2AProblem posted...
"I have a pen and I have a phone."

Gee, I don't have the foggiest of ideas.




*laughs my f***ing ass off that people were up in arms about this*


Because Fox News and Breitbart told them what to think again.
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Jimayo posted...
OtakuD50 posted...
TheY2AProblem posted...
"I have a pen and I have a phone."

Gee, I don't have the foggiest of ideas.


*googles quote for context*

*laughs my f***ing ass off that people were up in arms about this*


@OtakuD50

That was nothing.

At this point in former President Barack Obama's tenure as the leader of the free world, right-wing news outlets were condemning his use of Dijon mustard as a condiment. Yes, really.


http://www.newsweek.com/barack-obama-donald-trump-russia-investigation-dijon-mustard-scandal-fox-fake-623643

The right went utterly insane when a black man was elected president.

It was absolutely insane. It gave them the chance to focus and expand racial hate. And the rightwing didn't actually have to come up with policy, which is their biggest draw back as a party. They can raise money, they are masters of the negative add, but ruling is beyond them
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