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Ellesarien posted...FUCKING ALPHA!!!!
Run away little Donnie...run away...
Rage is a hell of an anesthetic.SkuIItuIakid posted...I'm making excuses?
Yes...
For seven years they have been ready to do this.....and now with control of the entire Gov't...they are shitting the bed like always.
You're a damn coward just like Trump. Fucking Alpha man.I will try and see it from your point of view, but I doubt we'll be able to fit both our heads up there.Ellesarien posted...SaikyoStyle posted...
Ellesarien posted...
SkuIItuIakid posted...
So basically the democrat made Obamacare is gonna fail, and all the dem posters here are saying it's trumps fault lol
You certainly sound and type like a Trump Cultist.
Down with evil liberal education!!!
He equivocates and makes excuses like a liberal blaming Bush for Obama's failures.
Well, at least he didn't go full on Trump unhinged like that No Fear guy.
The Trump Cult knows....they just don't have the courage or fortitude to admit it so they will continue to blame Obama, Hillary, Bill, George Washington, Soros, Aliens, etc for all their failures. It's what they do.
And skulltulakid is the least courageous one I've seen to date.Orlando City/USA Soccer
Dukat/Madred 2020. Make Cardassia Great Again!SkuIItuIakid posted...mystic belmont posted...
SkuIItuIakid posted...
So basically the democrat made Obamacare is gonna fail, and all the dem posters here are saying it's trumps fault lol
Who is at the helm, with complete control of all three branches of the government, and can pass legislation without the need for Democrats?
Basically your saying:
"It's the rupublicans fault because they can't fix our big mistake"
If a bridge is going to collapse, and the party that could pay for it's replacement or to fix it, and they fail to not do so, do you blame the original people who constructed it?"Freedom was meaningless without ownership and control over one's own body" -Henry McNeal Turner
[Evil Republican] 3DS FC: 5429-7297-4842LightSnake posted...I'll take that bet.
Greatest Shows of All Time.
Avatar: The Last Airbender, SWAT Kats, Sailor Moon, Tetsuwan Atom 2K3, Transformers, Spiderfriendshoax123 posted...No matter what health care plan you come up with, its doomed to be demonized if you do it on a national level.
That was a flaw of Obamacare, in addition to being a republican plan(originally).
Do health care state by state, i would say, the states that doesnt want the ACA? Fine, let them repeal it. States that want status quo(ACA), let them keep it. States that wants medicare for all? Fine, let them do it.
We need young people from the pools of all States to pich in just like we need the taxes and the mandate from the rich to keep the law working.
States better get used to the idea of pitching in to insure thy fellow man.Greatest Shows of All Time.
Avatar: The Last Airbender, SWAT Kats, Sailor Moon, Tetsuwan Atom 2K3, Transformers, SpiderfriendsBesides what if your in a purple State? Every new governor would repeal & restore the law left and right.
Best keep it with the govt.Greatest Shows of All Time.
Avatar: The Last Airbender, SWAT Kats, Sailor Moon, Tetsuwan Atom 2K3, Transformers, Spiderfriendsmystic belmont posted...SkuIItuIakid posted...
mystic belmont posted...
SkuIItuIakid posted...
So basically the democrat made Obamacare is gonna fail, and all the dem posters here are saying it's trumps fault lol
Who is at the helm, with complete control of all three branches of the government, and can pass legislation without the need for Democrats?
Basically your saying:
"It's the rupublicans fault because they can't fix our big mistake"
If a bridge is going to collapse, and the party that could pay for it's replacement or to fix it, and they fail to not do so, do you blame the original people who constructed it?
Yes, considering they told everyone they built the bridge without reading the blue prints and then fined people for not using it.Boy, those tweets just keep biting the dipshit in his ass.Party leader, passive-aggressive doormat, pasta eater extraordinaire!Why can't the president do his job?Orlando City/USA Soccer
Dukat/Madred 2020. Make Cardassia Great Again!SaikyoStyle posted...Why can't the president do his job?
Democrats are obstructing him by forcing Republicans to not vote for health care.[NO BARKLEY NO PEACE]MegatokyoEd posted...SaikyoStyle posted...
Why can't the president do his job?
Democrats are obstructing him by forcing Republicans to not vote for health care.
Lousy democrats.... Even when it was the bears, I knew it was them!Orlando City/USA Soccer
Dukat/Madred 2020. Make Cardassia Great Again!BoxxyXXXVII posted...I mean, it is OBAMAcare
Not sure if you are trolling or just actually don't know that isn't its real name.I mean, i never see the right bash the left on anything because the blame game causes more issues than anything-Joshhttps://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/250975772083380226Obama's complaints about Republicans stopping his agenda are BS since he had full control for two years. He can never take responsibility.
there is one for LITERALLY EVERYTHINGSwitch FC: SW-0826-5923-7882 NNID: Seadrake
It is a remake, not my fault you people think ports are remakes (but only on Nintendo systems)-Demondog666Lol:
@striderhlc:
"The first law of Trumpodynamics: for every Trump action, there is an equal and opposite Trump tweet."Behold my beauty!Genericgamer667 posted...https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/250975772083380226
Obama's complaints about Republicans stopping his agenda are BS since he had full control for two years. He can never take responsibility.
there is one for LITERALLY EVERYTHING
https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/378246501429817344NO GAMES! HOUSE @GOP MUST DEFUND OBAMACARE! IF THEY DON’T, THEN THEY OWN IT!
Also quite on the nose.Party leader, passive-aggressive doormat, pasta eater extraordinaire!Have we reached the end of Trump idol worship yet?
They have the house, they have the senate, they have the executive branch headed by the self titled grand puba of deal making, they have a seven year headstart of planning, and this giant baby is sitting in his crib tweeting and crying and blaming everyone else and doing nothing to actually direct policy himself. He's totally impotent. He's as alpha as Morton KoopaThe plural of 'anecdote' is not 'data'.Mephsuit posted...Have we reached the end of Trump idol worship yet?
They have the house, they have the senate, they have the executive branch headed by the self titled grand puba of deal making, they have a seven year headstart of planning, and this giant baby is sitting in his crib tweeting and crying and blaming everyone else and doing nothing to actually direct policy himself. He's totally impotent. He's as alpha as Morton Koopa
No. The usual suspects will continue their schtick because either they're the Chaotic Stupid-type amateur human beings or they're just here to be obnoxious.Party leader, passive-aggressive doormat, pasta eater extraordinaire!MegatokyoEd posted...SaikyoStyle posted...
Why can't the president do his job?
Democrats are obstructing him by forcing Republicans to not vote for health care.
Those monsters! Can't they just let the poor lil guy go on his embezzling golf trips in peace?!?!Rage is a hell of an anesthetic.Leadership: Whatever happens, you're responsible. If it doesn't happen, you're responsible.
https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/398887965302091776NO GAMES! HOUSE @GOP MUST DEFUND OBAMACARE! IF THEY DON’T, THEN THEY OWN IT!
https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/378246501429817344
@ThePieReborn got to it first, hahahhttp://i.imgur.com/1yl1fH0.jpg
the White-Sounding Black ChickAlso Trump, telegraphing your strategy is kinda a bad move you know
http://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-40646625Not a good strategy - Anthony Zurcher, BBC News, Washington
Call it Mr Trump's "Joker" option for Obamacare repeal. Do nothing, and watch the world burn. Explaining how your dastardly plan will go down seldom works for cartoon villains, however, and it may not be the best strategy for presidents either.
By telling Americans he's going to let the US healthcare system collapse in order to rally support for an eventual fix, he's essentially taking responsibility for anything bad that happens in the coming days. Despite his protestations that he won't "own" what happens next, he just stuffed the receipt in his pocket.
Premiums go up? Insurance providers pull out of state individual markets? Democrats can say it's part of the president's plan to sabotage the system. All the while Mr Trump's opponents can point to the Congressional Budget Office's findings that, without White House meddling, the insurance markets would be relatively stable.
Then again, at this point, the president has few good options. His promises to eventually work with Democrats are undermined by his pledges to defeat them at the ballot box next year. He clearly can't move forward with Republicans alone.
All that's left is to walk away and hope for the worst.Switch FC: SW-0826-5923-7882 NNID: Seadrake
It is a remake, not my fault you people think ports are remakes (but only on Nintendo systems)-Demondog666He's going to sabotage it and then claim that it is failing on its own because that's just the kind of subhuman trash that he is."Physics is not a religion. If it were, we'd have a much easier time raising money."
-- Leon LedermanAnd they'll believe it without question.Orlando City/USA Soccer
Dukat/Madred 2020. Make Cardassia Great Again!Donnie really wants to take the chance that after 4 years people won't blame the current political issues in the country on the party in charge?
Lmao bring it on bitchGenericgamer667 posted...
Then again, at this point, the president has few good options
The problem is, he still has one extremely good option left, as with all of his hairbrained bullshit..... His cultists will believe it. People keep telling me the cultists are just a small subset of the republican electorate, but... the whole lot of them still keep buying it hook, line, and sinker.Rage is a hell of an anesthetic.Heineken14 posted...Genericgamer667 posted...
Then again, at this point, the president has few good options
The problem is, he still has one extremely good option left, as with all of his hairbrained bullshit..... His cultists will believe it. People keep telling me the cultists are just a small subset of the republican electorate, but... the whole lot of them still keep buying it hook, line, and sinker.
At this point it's a matter of pride for them. They'd let us all burn before they'd admit they were duped.Orlando City/USA Soccer
Dukat/Madred 2020. Make Cardassia Great Again!Ellesarien posted...SkuIItuIakid posted...
I'm making excuses?
Yes...
For seven years they have been ready to do this.....and now with control of the entire Gov't...they are shitting the bed like always.
You're a damn coward just like Trump. Fucking Alpha man.
Every one of you is saying: "Republican's had all this time to fix Dem's mistake." What an awful excuse Ellesarien.SaikyoStyle posted...Ellesarien posted...
SaikyoStyle posted...
Ellesarien posted...
SkuIItuIakid posted...
So basically the democrat made Obamacare is gonna fail, and all the dem posters here are saying it's trumps fault lol
You certainly sound and type like a Trump Cultist.
Down with evil liberal education!!!
He equivocates and makes excuses like a liberal blaming Bush for Obama's failures.
Well, at least he didn't go full on Trump unhinged like that No Fear guy.
The Trump Cult knows....they just don't have the courage or fortitude to admit it so they will continue to blame Obama, Hillary, Bill, George Washington, Soros, Aliens, etc for all their failures. It's what they do.
And skulltulakid is the least courageous one I've seen to date.
Using Ad-Hominem now are we? What a jokeSkuIItuIakid posted...
Using Ad-Hominem now huh? What a joke
Says the guy who is nothing but 1 giant fallacy. Nice.Rage is a hell of an anesthetic.Shouldn't he own that his attempt at "repeal and replace" has failed?Empty the Tanks.
Ivory Free.Heineken14 posted...SkuIItuIakid posted...
Using Ad-Hominem now huh? What a joke
Says the guy who is nothing but 1 giant fallacy. Nice.
Looks like all you guys can do is make excuses, and once it's pointed out you just call the guy a "fallacy" or not "courageous"
Ad Hominem at its finestSkuIItuIakid posted...Ellesarien posted...
SkuIItuIakid posted...
I'm making excuses?
Yes...
For seven years they have been ready to do this.....and now with control of the entire Gov't...they are shitting the bed like always.
You're a damn coward just like Trump. Fucking Alpha man.
Every one of you is saying: "Republican's had all this time to fix Dem's mistake." What an awful excuse Ellesarien.
If they would have joined the Dems to fix the issues that the ACA had (that even Dems admitted - it was suppose to be a work in progress) we would be in a much better place. But because Obama did it...they just couldn't swallow their pride and allow him and Democrats a victory of this magnitude so they decided to go Nuclear and just never help and work to destroy it as fast as possible by undermining the confidence of the pools.
Now they are reaping what they've sown and blaming others....Like you.I will try and see it from your point of view, but I doubt we'll be able to fit both our heads up there.acolytes posted...Shouldn't he own that his attempt at "repeal and replace" has failed?
Why when his C-holsters like skull here just get kneebound to him anyways. He has certain followers who would kiss his feet after he shot their family dead in front of them.I will try and see it from your point of view, but I doubt we'll be able to fit both our heads up there.But Donald, I thought you had something "terrific"?"If The Suspense Doesn't Kill You, Something Else Will!" - Resident Evil 2The people of this board live in a bizarro universe.
Obamacare is collapsing. That's just a fact. Some states have no insurers competing in the open exchanges, and that number will rise next year. Other insurers are asking for double digit premium increases to cover their skyrocketing costs, and people are paying more money for less coverage.
To turn around and blame Republicans for letting the very thing fail that Democrats have adamantly defended for the 8 years, going so far as to everyone how great Obamacare is, is a pretty odd-- and losing-- proposition.You tried to milk him, didn't you? You sick son of a *****!SkuIItuIakid posted...Heineken14 posted...
SkuIItuIakid posted...
Using Ad-Hominem now huh? What a joke
Says the guy who is nothing but 1 giant fallacy. Nice.
Looks like all you guys can do is make excuses, and once it's pointed out you just call the guy a "fallacy" or not "courageous"
Ad Hominem at its finest
Buttmadness at its finest. Take a chill pill while the ACA is still around and you are covered, hombre.Rage is a hell of an anesthetic.Brandalia posted...The people of this board live in a bizarro universe.
Well it's predominately right wing trolls, so... you're actually pretty accurate for once.Rage is a hell of an anesthetic.SkuIItuIakid posted...Ellesarien posted...
SkuIItuIakid posted...
I'm making excuses?
Yes...
For seven years they have been ready to do this.....and now with control of the entire Gov't...they are shitting the bed like always.
You're a damn coward just like Trump. Fucking Alpha man.
Every one of you is saying: "Republican's had all this time to fix Dem's mistake." What an awful excuse Ellesarien.
No firstly you keep calling it a failure, you need to prove it's actually a failure. You're the one making the claim, the onus is on you to actually back that up. Something more than the intellectually lazy arguments of "Look around you!" "Open your eyes!" "This one person I know..." or you're full of shit and not worth listening to.
Secondly if Republicans truly wanted to change the ACA they have indeed had all this time to think of something. They had nearly all of Obama's presidency to think of something better. Seven years. After seven years they have nothing to show for it. That's not an excuse, it's a statement of fact and extremely fucking pathetic regardless of which party you're affiliated with."You know, I dunno if they wasted the rape scene on Sansa...but if they had used it on Arya, she'd have more character development." -Wormy/PinkRangerBrandalia posted...Obamacare is collapsing. That's just a fact. Some states have no insurers competing in the open exchanges, and that number will rise next year. Other insurers are asking for double digit premium increases to cover their skyrocketing costs, and people are paying more money for less coverage.
To turn around and blame Republicans for letting the very thing fail that Democrats have adamantly defended for the 8 years, going so far as to everyone how great Obamacare is, is a pretty odd-- and losing-- proposition.
If Obamacare is failing, and the GOP has the means to save it but refuse to, it's their fault.
Who are the voters going to blame, the party that doesn't control a single branch, or the one that controls all of it?
Hmm...."Freedom was meaningless without ownership and control over one's own body" -Henry McNeal Turner
[Evil Republican] 3DS FC: 5429-7297-4842Heineken14 posted...Brandalia posted...
The people of this board live in a bizarro universe.
Well it's predominately right wing trolls, so... you're actually pretty accurate for once.Make 261 Great Again
Not changing this sig until infinitys_7th pays me the $1,000 he owes me(4/6/17)You need at least 60 to control the senate side congress so the republicans dont control that branch.Brandalia posted...
To turn around and blame Republicans for letting the very thing fail that Democrats have adamantly defended for the 8 years, going so far as to everyone how great Obamacare is, is a pretty odd-- and losing-- proposition.
Know what else is? Bitching for 8 years that if you get elected you'll repeal and fix healthcare then being so divided you can't even get the party to agree despite controlling 3 branches.
But please, keep gambling that fickle voters won't flip back if you back off on campaign promises, it will just make the next two cycles even easier lmaoBrandalia posted...The people of this board live in a bizarro universe.
Obamacare is collapsing. That's just a fact. Some states have no insurers competing in the open exchanges, and that number will rise next year. Other insurers are asking for double digit premium increases to cover their skyrocketing costs, and people are paying more money for less coverage.
To turn around and blame Republicans for letting the very thing fail that Democrats have adamantly defended for the 8 years, going so far as to everyone how great Obamacare is, is a pretty odd-- and losing-- proposition.
Trump promised people he would have a bill ready in 100 days. The GOP promised that.
They are now liars. And Trump's "plan" is to literally let Americans suffer because Obamacare is so bad instead of fixing it with full control of congress.
Good luck selling the public on this.[NO BARKLEY NO PEACE]mystic belmont posted...Brandalia posted...
Obamacare is collapsing. That's just a fact. Some states have no insurers competing in the open exchanges, and that number will rise next year. Other insurers are asking for double digit premium increases to cover their skyrocketing costs, and people are paying more money for less coverage.
To turn around and blame Republicans for letting the very thing fail that Democrats have adamantly defended for the 8 years, going so far as to everyone how great Obamacare is, is a pretty odd-- and losing-- proposition.
If Obamacare is failing, and the GOP has the means to save it but refuse to, it's their fault.
Who are the voters going to blame, the party that doesn't control a single branch, or the one that controls all of it?
Hmm....
So you believe that the populace as a whole is going to turn around and vote in Democrats to save the very thing Democrats passed initially-- sans any Republican votes, mind you-- and have spent the last eight years proclaiming to be great and not being in need of any fixes?
If so, you're delusional.
That's like arguing that you're going to trust the guy who robbed you of thousands of dollars to adequately manage your millions of dollars.You tried to milk him, didn't you? You sick son of a *****!SPMcGuilicutty posted...Heineken14 posted...
Brandalia posted...
The people of this board live in a bizarro universe.
Well it's predominately right wing trolls, so... you're actually pretty accurate for once.
Good to see you back @SPMcGuilicutty :)The Official Supergirl of the Injustice 2 boards.
Official Batman of the Gamefaqs Justice League.Cassie_Cage posted...Good to see you back @SPMcGuilicutty :)
Good to be back!Make 261 Great Again
Not changing this sig until infinitys_7th pays me the $1,000 he owes me(4/6/17)So in 4 years are you guys still going to be bitching about Obama? Trust me, bitching about a former president at every chance and not taking accountability doesn't actually work with the voters.The Great Muta 22 posted...So in 4 years are you guys still going to be bitching about Obama? Trust me, bitching about a former president at every chance and not taking accountability doesn't actually work with the voters.
Are you kidding? The GOP still bitches about Jimmy Carter.Make 261 Great Again
Not changing this sig until infinitys_7th pays me the $1,000 he owes me(4/6/17)It's rather embarrassing that the usual suspects can't even be bothered to hold the president and his party to his own standards.Party leader, passive-aggressive doormat, pasta eater extraordinaire!Brandalia posted...
So you believe that the populace as a whole is going to turn around and vote in Democrats to save the very thing Democrats passed initially-- sans any Republican votes, mind you-- and have spent the last eight years proclaiming to be great and not being in need of any fixes?
Be howest, how long have you actually followed politics in this country? Since 2012, maybe?- Boards
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Brandalia posted...mystic belmont posted...
Brandalia posted...
Obamacare is collapsing. That's just a fact. Some states have no insurers competing in the open exchanges, and that number will rise next year. Other insurers are asking for double digit premium increases to cover their skyrocketing costs, and people are paying more money for less coverage.
To turn around and blame Republicans for letting the very thing fail that Democrats have adamantly defended for the 8 years, going so far as to everyone how great Obamacare is, is a pretty odd-- and losing-- proposition.
If Obamacare is failing, and the GOP has the means to save it but refuse to, it's their fault.
Who are the voters going to blame, the party that doesn't control a single branch, or the one that controls all of it?
Hmm....
So you believe that the populace as a whole is going to turn around and vote in Democrats to save the very thing Democrats passed initially-- sans any Republican votes, mind you-- and have spent the last eight years proclaiming to be great and not being in need of any fixes?
If so, you're delusional.
That's like arguing that you're going to trust the guy who robbed you of thousands of dollars to adequately manage your millions of dollars.
Nah. I'd trust the plumber who failed to fix my water pipes before to try again over the plumber who literally won't even try to put something forward.
The GOP has now shown they're too inept to even try to fix health care. There is zero reason anyone should trust them ever again.[NO BARKLEY NO PEACE]Republicans had what, 7 years to come up with a replacement?http://i.imgur.com/ZWNgMXL.jpg Formally known as Will VIIII
Game Discounts + Deals: http://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/1205-discounts-and-dealsMegatokyoEd posted...Brandalia posted...
The people of this board live in a bizarro universe.
Obamacare is collapsing. That's just a fact. Some states have no insurers competing in the open exchanges, and that number will rise next year. Other insurers are asking for double digit premium increases to cover their skyrocketing costs, and people are paying more money for less coverage.
To turn around and blame Republicans for letting the very thing fail that Democrats have adamantly defended for the 8 years, going so far as to everyone how great Obamacare is, is a pretty odd-- and losing-- proposition.
Trump promised people he would have a bill ready in 100 days. The GOP promised that.
They are now liars. And Trump's "plan" is to literally let Americans suffer because Obamacare is so bad instead of fixing it with full control of congress.
Good luck selling the public on this.
So Democrats either have to acknowledge that they were wrong on healthcare after eight years of proclaiming differently and denying what was plainly obvious to any nonpartisan (but I guess, in your world, being a "liar" for damn near a decade is okay), or they have to agree to work on a fix.
You can "blame" Republicans for failing to replace Obamacare, but Obamacare failing is the result of those people who passed it to begin with.You tried to milk him, didn't you? You sick son of a *****!Brandalia posted...Must... Spin...
Make 261 Great Again
Not changing this sig until infinitys_7th pays me the $1,000 he owes me(4/6/17)MegatokyoEd posted...Brandalia posted...
mystic belmont posted...
Brandalia posted...
Obamacare is collapsing. That's just a fact. Some states have no insurers competing in the open exchanges, and that number will rise next year. Other insurers are asking for double digit premium increases to cover their skyrocketing costs, and people are paying more money for less coverage.
To turn around and blame Republicans for letting the very thing fail that Democrats have adamantly defended for the 8 years, going so far as to everyone how great Obamacare is, is a pretty odd-- and losing-- proposition.
If Obamacare is failing, and the GOP has the means to save it but refuse to, it's their fault.
Who are the voters going to blame, the party that doesn't control a single branch, or the one that controls all of it?
Hmm....
So you believe that the populace as a whole is going to turn around and vote in Democrats to save the very thing Democrats passed initially-- sans any Republican votes, mind you-- and have spent the last eight years proclaiming to be great and not being in need of any fixes?
If so, you're delusional.
That's like arguing that you're going to trust the guy who robbed you of thousands of dollars to adequately manage your millions of dollars.
Nah. I'd trust the plumber who failed to fix my water pipes before to try again over the plumber who literally won't even try to put something forward.
The GOP has now shown they're too inept to even try to fix health care. There is zero reason anyone should trust them ever again.
Except the GOP did put something forward.
Look, I get the delusion on this board runs high, where losing secretly equals winning, but good luck if you think the very people who have been screwed by Obamacare are going to turn around and vote in the people who (1) screwed them with Obamacare and (2) laughed at them while screwing them.You tried to milk him, didn't you? You sick son of a *****!Brandalia posted...MegatokyoEd posted...
Brandalia posted...
The people of this board live in a bizarro universe.
Obamacare is collapsing. That's just a fact. Some states have no insurers competing in the open exchanges, and that number will rise next year. Other insurers are asking for double digit premium increases to cover their skyrocketing costs, and people are paying more money for less coverage.
To turn around and blame Republicans for letting the very thing fail that Democrats have adamantly defended for the 8 years, going so far as to everyone how great Obamacare is, is a pretty odd-- and losing-- proposition.
Trump promised people he would have a bill ready in 100 days. The GOP promised that.
They are now liars. And Trump's "plan" is to literally let Americans suffer because Obamacare is so bad instead of fixing it with full control of congress.
Good luck selling the public on this.
So Democrats either have to acknowledge that they were wrong on healthcare after eight years of proclaiming differently and denying what was plainly obvious to any nonpartisan (but I guess, in your world, being a "liar" for damn near a decade is okay), or they have to agree to work on a fix.
You can "blame" Republicans for failing to replace Obamacare, but Obamacare failing is the result of those people who passed it to begin with.
Democrats have wanted to work on fixes for years dude. Nobody argues it's perfect.[NO BARKLEY NO PEACE]SPMcGuilicutty posted...Cassie_Cage posted...
Good to see you back @SPMcGuilicutty :)
Good to be back!
Way I figure it, if Stormfoot and Boxxxxxxxxwtfever can have 50 megagazillion handles, you can come back.The Official Supergirl of the Injustice 2 boards.
Official Batman of the Gamefaqs Justice League.The Great Muta 22 posted...Brandalia posted...
So you believe that the populace as a whole is going to turn around and vote in Democrats to save the very thing Democrats passed initially-- sans any Republican votes, mind you-- and have spent the last eight years proclaiming to be great and not being in need of any fixes?
Be howest, how long have you actually followed politics in this country? Since 2012, maybe?
That's about when 95% of this board starting following politics, so no.You tried to milk him, didn't you? You sick son of a *****!Brandalia posted...sans any Republican votes, mind you
That isn't even true.MegatokyoEd posted...Brandalia posted...
MegatokyoEd posted...
Brandalia posted...
The people of this board live in a bizarro universe.
Obamacare is collapsing. That's just a fact. Some states have no insurers competing in the open exchanges, and that number will rise next year. Other insurers are asking for double digit premium increases to cover their skyrocketing costs, and people are paying more money for less coverage.
To turn around and blame Republicans for letting the very thing fail that Democrats have adamantly defended for the 8 years, going so far as to everyone how great Obamacare is, is a pretty odd-- and losing-- proposition.
Trump promised people he would have a bill ready in 100 days. The GOP promised that.
They are now liars. And Trump's "plan" is to literally let Americans suffer because Obamacare is so bad instead of fixing it with full control of congress.
Good luck selling the public on this.
So Democrats either have to acknowledge that they were wrong on healthcare after eight years of proclaiming differently and denying what was plainly obvious to any nonpartisan (but I guess, in your world, being a "liar" for damn near a decade is okay), or they have to agree to work on a fix.
You can "blame" Republicans for failing to replace Obamacare, but Obamacare failing is the result of those people who passed it to begin with.
Democrats have wanted to work on fixes for years dude. Nobody argues it's perfect.
How many examples of leftists/liberals/Democrats absolutely defending Obamacare would it take for you to rescind the above assertion?
Remember, if it appears on the Internet, it's forever.You tried to milk him, didn't you? You sick son of a *****!The Great Muta 22 posted...Brandalia posted...
So you believe that the populace as a whole is going to turn around and vote in Democrats to save the very thing Democrats passed initially-- sans any Republican votes, mind you-- and have spent the last eight years proclaiming to be great and not being in need of any fixes?
Be howest, how long have you actually followed politics in this country? Since 2012, maybe?
Knowing most of the super hardcore Donnie cultists on here, when you say "this country" there's a high chance it isn't actually America for them.Rage is a hell of an anesthetic.Porunga posted...Brandalia posted...
sans any Republican votes, mind you
That isn't even true.
It totally is. Obamacare passed with zero Republican votes either in the House or the Senate.You tried to milk him, didn't you? You sick son of a *****!What happened to the "I'll have the greatest replacement for Obamacare and everyone will be covered and it will be great" plan? I thought he was going to have the solution all by himself and no one else could have done it but him? It's a shame that his supporters still haven't woken up to the fact that he has not kept a single promise and does not intend to do so.GameOver3 posted...What happened to the "I'll have the greatest replacement for Obamacare and everyone will be covered and it will be great" plan? I thought he was going to have the solution all by himself and no one else could have done it but him? It's a shame that his supporters still haven't woken up to the fact that he has not kept a single promise and does not intend to do so.
Not only that, he's gone on the record previously saying that inaction re: the ACA makes the Republicans culpable.Party leader, passive-aggressive doormat, pasta eater extraordinaire!No one knew healthcare could be so complicated.I post on Yahoo.ThePieReborn posted...GameOver3 posted...
What happened to the "I'll have the greatest replacement for Obamacare and everyone will be covered and it will be great" plan? I thought he was going to have the solution all by himself and no one else could have done it but him? It's a shame that his supporters still haven't woken up to the fact that he has not kept a single promise and does not intend to do so.
Not only that, he's gone on the record previously saying that inaction re: the ACA makes the Republicans culpable.
Not only that, but it was shown that if the ACA was left alone it would stabilize and there would be no major issues, yet trump has said that it is collapsing and even went so far as to suggest they sabotage it to cause it to collapse. If it fails because they fucked with it to make it fail, you bet your ass it is his fault. Nobody is going to blame the Democrats here... except for the idiots that literally blame the Democrats for everything.Cassie_Cage posted...Way I figure it, if Stormfoot and Boxxxxxxxxwtfever can have 50 megagazillion handles, you can come back.
It's funny. I got purg'd for calling Madfoot what he was. During my purgatory, he went through like 5 accounts.Make 261 Great Again
Not changing this sig until infinitys_7th pays me the $1,000 he owes me(4/6/17)Porunga posted...ThePieReborn posted...
GameOver3 posted...
What happened to the "I'll have the greatest replacement for Obamacare and everyone will be covered and it will be great" plan? I thought he was going to have the solution all by himself and no one else could have done it but him? It's a shame that his supporters still haven't woken up to the fact that he has not kept a single promise and does not intend to do so.
Not only that, he's gone on the record previously saying that inaction re: the ACA makes the Republicans culpable.
Not only that, but it was shown that if the ACA was left alone it would stabilize and there would be no major issues, yet trump has said that it is collapsing and even went so far as to suggest they sabotage it to cause it to collapse. If it fails because they fucked with it to make it fail, you bet your ass it is his fault. Nobody is going to blame the Democrats here... except for the idiots that literally blame the Democrats for everything.
See, this is just totally untrue. Going back to 2015, we were already seeing increases (some times double digit) in premiums, due to lower enrollment rates and insurers having to cover their losses, increases in deductibles and insurers exiting the markets.
You can easily look this up.You tried to milk him, didn't you? You sick son of a *****!Premiums going up, sometimes by double digits, is what had already been happening. All of the nonpartisan analysis indicates that they would have gone up even more without obamacare."Physics is not a religion. If it were, we'd have a much easier time raising money."
-- Leon LedermanBrandalia posted...Going back to 2015, we were already seeing increases
Yes, premiums have gone up almost yearly, even before the ACA. The rate at which they went up had slowed under the ACA though. As a wise man once said...
You can easily look this up.Rage is a hell of an anesthetic.It doesn't matter, Trump can kill a dog and her puppies on live TV and his supporters will not care.Bender: Well, everybody, I just saved a turtle. What have you done with your lives?Same time, same content post..."Physics is not a religion. If it were, we'd have a much easier time raising money."
-- Leon Ledermanhttps://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/398887965302091776Leadership: Whatever happens, you're responsible. If it doesn't happen, you're responsible.
Switch FC: SW-0826-5923-7882 NNID: Seadrake
It is a remake, not my fault you people think ports are remakes (but only on Nintendo systems)-Demondog666Heineken14 posted...Brandalia posted...
Going back to 2015, we were already seeing increases
Yes, premiums have gone up almost yearly, even before the ACA. The rate at which they went up had slowed under the ACA though. As a wise man once said...
You can easily look this up.
"What do you mean milk doesn't cost a nickel anymore?! OBAMA!!!"Make 261 Great Again
Not changing this sig until infinitys_7th pays me the $1,000 he owes me(4/6/17)Heineken14 posted...Brandalia posted...
Going back to 2015, we were already seeing increases
Yes, premiums have gone up almost yearly, even before the ACA. The rate at which they went up had slowed under the ACA though. As a wise man once said...
You can easily look this up.
Talk about moving the goalposts. How quickly Democrats forget.
:)You tried to milk him, didn't you? You sick son of a *****!SPMcGuilicutty posted..."What do you mean milk doesn't cost a nickel anymore?! OBAMA!!!"
Tends to be the attitude of those who mooch off their parents and the stateNoFear posted...SPMcGuilicutty posted...
"What do you mean milk doesn't cost a nickel anymore?! OBAMA!!!"
Tends to be the attitude of those who mooch off their parents and the state
Conservatism is trolling.Make 261 Great Again
Not changing this sig until infinitys_7th pays me the $1,000 he owes me(4/6/17)Bet he'll try to own it when thousands of families speak on how Obamacare saved themIf you conjure something in Vivec, and noones around to see you, do the Ordinators still kick your ass?I guess this just goes to show how many of theserepubs are rhinosWe make men without chests and expect from them virtue and enterprise. We laugh at honor and are shocked to find traitors in our midst. - C.S. LewisBrandalia posted...MegatokyoEd posted...
Brandalia posted...
The people of this board live in a bizarro universe.
Obamacare is collapsing. That's just a fact. Some states have no insurers competing in the open exchanges, and that number will rise next year. Other insurers are asking for double digit premium increases to cover their skyrocketing costs, and people are paying more money for less coverage.
To turn around and blame Republicans for letting the very thing fail that Democrats have adamantly defended for the 8 years, going so far as to everyone how great Obamacare is, is a pretty odd-- and losing-- proposition.
Trump promised people he would have a bill ready in 100 days. The GOP promised that.
They are now liars. And Trump's "plan" is to literally let Americans suffer because Obamacare is so bad instead of fixing it with full control of congress.
Good luck selling the public on this.
So Democrats either have to acknowledge that they were wrong on healthcare after eight years of proclaiming differently and denying what was plainly obvious to any nonpartisan (but I guess, in your world, being a "liar" for damn near a decade is okay), or they have to agree to work on a fix.
You can "blame" Republicans for failing to replace Obamacare, but Obamacare failing is the result of those people who passed it to begin with.
Not only is it false to assume anyone here thought obamacare was perfect (just better than most of what else has been proposed, but far from perfect), I pre-empted this right wing trash point as early as the second post.
omega bahumat posted...Didn't Trump consistently say how easy health care was and how he was going to fix it? Didn't he say it was going to be cheaper and better because he had a plan?
No sir, you don't get to throw this at anyone. The ball is in your court. Make your move. Standing still will only lose you the game.
Why are you always so wrong?Brandalia posted...Porunga posted...
ThePieReborn posted...
GameOver3 posted...
What happened to the "I'll have the greatest replacement for Obamacare and everyone will be covered and it will be great" plan? I thought he was going to have the solution all by himself and no one else could have done it but him? It's a shame that his supporters still haven't woken up to the fact that he has not kept a single promise and does not intend to do so.
Not only that, he's gone on the record previously saying that inaction re: the ACA makes the Republicans culpable.
Not only that, but it was shown that if the ACA was left alone it would stabilize and there would be no major issues, yet trump has said that it is collapsing and even went so far as to suggest they sabotage it to cause it to collapse. If it fails because they fucked with it to make it fail, you bet your ass it is his fault. Nobody is going to blame the Democrats here... except for the idiots that literally blame the Democrats for everything.
See, this is just totally untrue. Going back to 2015, we were already seeing increases (some times double digit) in premiums, due to lower enrollment rates and insurers having to cover their losses, increases in deductibles and insurers exiting the markets.
You can easily look this up.
how about you post the evidence since you're spewing the bullshitNot changing until Melo and Porzingis lift the NBA championship higher than Curry's and Lebron's inflated headsdillon1278 posted...Bet he'll try to own it when thousands of families speak on how Obamacare saved them
While that is consistent with his past behavior (taking credit for shit that he had nothing to do with), what he did when people did make that claim is cry "fake news" and say that the people saying positive things about "obamacare" were paid to do so.omega bahumat posted...Not only is it false to assume anyone here thought obamacare was perfect (just better than most of what else has been proposed, but far from perfect)
Look, ma. A strawman!
I challenge you to find where this was stated or implied. Otherwise, I kindly accept your retraction.I pre-empted this right wing trash point as early as the second post.
Oh, this ought to be good.
/lowexpectationsNo sir, you don't get to throw this at anyone. The ball is in your court. Make your move. Standing still will only lose you the game.
"Don't blame us for passing Obamacare! Blame Republicans for failing to repeal it"
There, I summed up your "argument". In higher circles, we call that shifting blame.
Sorry, pal. Democrats passed, lied about (tell me again who stated that Obamacare passed because of "the stupidity of the American voter"?) and have defended Obamacare for years. You suddenly don't get to heap the abortion that is the ACA as the fault of the party who provided no votes towards its passage. Yes Republicans should repeal it, but Democrats own the legislation and the problems with it.
Not only is it asinine to now ascribe fault to Republicans (somehow, if Obamacare magically becomes a rousing success, I doubt you'll praise Republicans), but it's pure partisanship to do so. Not unexpected for this board, but still.Why are you always so wrong?
Dude?
You have damn near a year of being almost unilaterally wrong on everything. Again, the Internet is forever.
Do you really have no shame?You tried to milk him, didn't you? You sick son of a *****!Brand having a meltdown!Make 261 Great Again
Not changing this sig until infinitys_7th pays me the $1,000 he owes me(4/6/17)SPMcGuilicutty posted...Brand having a meltdown!
ITS ALL BREAKING DOWN SHITS OFF THE HOOOOK~The Official Supergirl of the Injustice 2 boards.
Official Batman of the Gamefaqs Justice League.http://www.bbc.com/news/av/world-us-canada-26845961/barack-obama-affordable-care-act-still-not-perfect
Oh look. Obama himself acknowledging the bills not perfect back in 2014.[NO BARKLEY NO PEACE]UnCxxReTuRns posted...Brandalia posted...
Porunga posted...
ThePieReborn posted...
GameOver3 posted...
What happened to the "I'll have the greatest replacement for Obamacare and everyone will be covered and it will be great" plan? I thought he was going to have the solution all by himself and no one else could have done it but him? It's a shame that his supporters still haven't woken up to the fact that he has not kept a single promise and does not intend to do so.
Not only that, he's gone on the record previously saying that inaction re: the ACA makes the Republicans culpable.
Not only that, but it was shown that if the ACA was left alone it would stabilize and there would be no major issues, yet trump has said that it is collapsing and even went so far as to suggest they sabotage it to cause it to collapse. If it fails because they fucked with it to make it fail, you bet your ass it is his fault. Nobody is going to blame the Democrats here... except for the idiots that literally blame the Democrats for everything.
See, this is just totally untrue. Going back to 2015, we were already seeing increases (some times double digit) in premiums, due to lower enrollment rates and insurers having to cover their losses, increases in deductibles and insurers exiting the markets.
You can easily look this up.
how about you post the evidence since you're spewing the bullshitNot changing until Melo and Porzingis lift the NBA championship higher than Curry's and Lebron's inflated headsSPMcGuilicutty posted...Brand having a meltdown!
You should learn what words mean before using them.You tried to milk him, didn't you? You sick son of a *****!MegatokyoEd posted...http://www.bbc.com/news/av/world-us-canada-26845961/barack-obama-affordable-care-act-still-not-perfect
Oh look. Obama himself acknowledging the bills not perfect back in 2014.
"Sorry you cant insure your family, now give me your income tax return or I'll steal your property."Brandalia posted...SPMcGuilicutty posted...
Brand having a meltdown!
You should learn what words mean before using them.
You should stop melting down!Make 261 Great Again
Not changing this sig until infinitys_7th pays me the $1,000 he owes me(4/6/17)MegatokyoEd posted...http://www.bbc.com/news/av/world-us-canada-26845961/barack-obama-affordable-care-act-still-not-perfect
Oh look. Obama himself acknowledging the bills not perfect back in 2014.
Oh, look.
What are you arguing (a strawman, is what)?
Let me quote myself, since you did not provide me a response.How many examples of leftists/liberals/Democrats absolutely defending Obamacare would it take for you to rescind the above assertion?
SPMcGuilicutty posted...Brandalia posted...
SPMcGuilicutty posted...
Brand having a meltdown!
You should learn what words mean before using them.
You should stop melting down!
You, ugh, should really learn what words mean before using them.You tried to milk him, didn't you? You sick son of a *****!Man, Republicans have really forgotten how to govern haven't they? I mean they're great at playing the foil, but once it's on them to do something they have no clue.Brandalia posted...You, ugh, should really learn what words mean before using them.
But I do know what it means!Make 261 Great Again
Not changing this sig until infinitys_7th pays me the $1,000 he owes me(4/6/17)And since my Johnathan Gruber reference went ignored...
;)
"Too stupid"
His words, not mine.You tried to milk him, didn't you? You sick son of a *****!SPMcGuilicutty posted...Brandalia posted...
You, ugh, should really learn what words mean before using them.
But I do know what it means!
Evidently not. We'll just put that next to the other hundred words or terms whose meanings escape you.You tried to milk him, didn't you? You sick son of a *****!Brandalia posted...And since my Johnathan Gruber reference went ignored...
;)
"Too stupid"
His words, not mine.
Best part about Gruber is the stupid ones have no idea he is referencing them...that is how stupid the American Liberal is.Brandalia posted...Evidently not.
But I do! Nice meltdown.Make 261 Great Again
Not changing this sig until infinitys_7th pays me the $1,000 he owes me(4/6/17)NoFear posted...Brandalia posted...
And since my Johnathan Gruber reference went ignored...
;)
"Too stupid"
His words, not mine.
Best part about Gruber is the stupid ones have no idea he is referencing them...that is how stupid the American Liberal is.
But liberals will tell you that you don't understand economics while their overlords openly mock their ignorance and delight in their stupidity.
You can't explain that.You tried to milk him, didn't you? You sick son of a *****!Brandalia posted...But liberals will tell you that you don't understand economics while their overlords openly mock their ignorance and delight in their stupidity.
You literally can't explain that.
Nice meltdown!Make 261 Great Again
Not changing this sig until infinitys_7th pays me the $1,000 he owes me(4/6/17)Brandalia posted...NoFear posted...
Brandalia posted...
And since my Johnathan Gruber reference went ignored...
;)
"Too stupid"
His words, not mine.
Best part about Gruber is the stupid ones have no idea he is referencing them...that is how stupid the American Liberal is.
But liberals will tell you that you don't understand economics while their overlords openly mock their ignorance and delight in their stupidity.
You can't explain that.
So what does wording a bill to make it sound more palatable to the public have to do with whether the bill is good or not?In Brady We Trust.
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